What I have learned:

  • Russia has already won the Ukraine war
  • Which NATO started
  • A lot of people in the West think that Ukraine should surrender
  • Also Ukraine was the world’s main provider of CSAM
  • Also Ukraine is exploited by the West but if they can unite with Russia then their economy and everything else will finally be alright

It’s literally like a bizarro world and everyone is over there agreeing with it. I’m genuinely confused by, who even are these people (what is the mixture of Russian bots / Russian-aligned ordinary people / confused Westerners / some other explanation.)

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    Basically just look up EthanIsOnline on youtube or twitter and there’s your average terminally online, drama queen, any slight association to anything I don’t like mandates guilt by massive unfounded leaps, always correct no matter how much of a hypocrite or just factually wrong they are kind of leftist person.

    I have known people like ml and hex tankies in real life. The ones I knew were extremely erratic and manipulative, explosive personalities.

    The sort of weird conversation style that works on comment threads and streams on the net has kind of broken their brains, as when you see a person doing this IRL its basically a 30 minute rant of them either screaming at you, or having a complete suicidal depression breakdown after any particular thing sets off them off.

    If you were an unbiased observer who was just observing most of the interactions these people have it’d be clear that they are emotionally abusive cry bullies.

    My experience was so bad that I’ve given up doing mutual aid and helping those who were at the time less well off than me.

    I can be the person actually doing the thing, spending all my time actually assisting the downtrodden, and none of that means anything because I laugh when my roommate says oh China’s former president just got whisked away during a very public party meeting, surely he’s been put into witness protection to save him from threats on his life!

    A month later I am homeless because roommate was angry and decided to spread a bunch of rumors about me.

    Awesome!

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      Basically just look up EthanIsOnline on youtube or twitter

      No no no I don’t want to

      I have known people like ml and hex tankies in real life. The ones I knew were extremely erratic and manipulative, explosive personalities.

      My experience is, honestly, pretty limited, but that makes sense to me. Some of the super-left people I have known IRL have been illogical in this very particular “and of course I am right about everything, that goes without saying” way that largely tracks with what you’re describing.

      It’s a fucking shame, because I am feeling right now that I should be getting involved with some kind of left organization for progress, because without that the US and the world are in mortal danger of some very bad things. IDK. Maybe the way to go is to get involved with unions and electoral politics and leave the harder core of communists to their own devices for the time being.