The Reddit Protest Is Finally Over. Reddit Won.::Reddit corporate claims victory over its disgruntled mods as r/aww, r/pics, and r/videos abandon the “John Oliver rule.”
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Bullshit. Nobody, or at least very few people, expected Reddit to revert the changes. A protest can be successful even if it doesn’t lead to immediate change. I was here on Lemmy long before the API nonsense happened over at Reddit, and the difference over here is night and day. Lemmy has been around for awhile, but until these last few months it couldn’t hold a candle to Reddit in terms of content or activity. Maybe it still can’t, but now it has enough users to be viable. Reddit might go on like nothing happened, but in the background a competitor has been born.
I migrated from Reddit. Most of the communities I followed would be hours or days between posts (if they were not private). Everything left was just not pleasant.
I am still fumbling around here but for the most part it is has better discussions and people seem less rude.
I do not regret leaving at this time. I am sure my infinitesimal presence or lack there of does not bother Reddit, but it made me feel better.
Less rude? Fuck you.
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Eat shit pal!
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Haha. Thank you for setting me straight.
Yeah, when I have looked at reddit recently I have observed that mostly the conversation is terrible. There is definitely more content than on Lemmy, but I also like talking to people who speak in entire sentences.
“Posts” and “content” are not the same. Most recent Reddit posts are not content. Few people left, but the ones that left were the content creators and moderators. Reddit, the platform, is dead, and Reddit, the social media, wears its skin.
I have enjoyed differing viewpoints with reasons, or examples included. I feel this helps promote continued engagement of the topic especially when presented without hostility.
I think that’s a good thing. Less is more, maybe? Dose it really have to be at the scale of reddit? I hope not. Tbh I hope Lemmy becomes bigger for sure but it doesn’t need to become the biggest thing. The more alternatives the better!
Thanks. I’m happy for no ads no boys
*no bots
What are you, some kinda ultra feminist?
No boys, only men.
No boys, only femboys
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I’m fine with that. Tbh I just want a place to read the news and comment my opinions and not have to wade through oceans of ads.
For sure. I’m using Lemmy much more than reddit. But it sucks because I really loved Reddit and I still use it to some degree. But when Relay stops working I might just stop altogether. I’m not installing their shitty app.
I’ve made the switch over and Lemmy feels perfectly viable and improving very quickly especially with the third party app devs working on supporting Lemmy. Reddit won’t die but it looks like it’ll stagnate, whereas Lemmy has got a brighter future.
A multitude of competitors.
“Me with my little home server”
It was to be expected, but I found Lemmy because of everything that happened, uninstalled Reddit, and now use Mastodon and Lemmy as my social media platforms of choice, so it’s a personal win.
Hopefully, as Lemmy continues to thrive, instances hold up to the pressure of growth and we see an influx of content that made Reddit so valuable to users and Reddit corporate alike.
I also found Lemmy because of Reddit’s fiasco, and I think its much better. Being able to have so many instances to get stuff from and forge communities offers a lot more freedom.
I wouldn’t say Lemmy is better but it has great potential. The mobile apps aren’t as good as Reddit’s third party apps but that’s changing. The content we are getting here isn’t as good and reddit has its history of content to search through. Lemmy will have its own issues we will have to sort out but it can be done if we work together.
I think a big issue on Lemmy that I’m seeing is people making it to be Reddit-no-corporate when I believe it should be is own unique thing. Since it isn’t corporate and thus no ads I think it would be hard to monetize high “karma” accounts so maybe we can get higher quality discussions. But if also seen people trying to create their echo chambers here by demanding defederation when one instance has a problem with a few trolls.
You compare Lemmy and Reddit but I see it like this : Lemmy is the code, so if you want to compare, compare say lemmy.world with Reddit, it makes more sense.
And lemmy.this and lemmy.that, that’s the cool thing, everyone can have a go at making a “subreddit”, with their own rules.
And I’m not holding my breath for ads, “people have to eat” etc will bring them to popular instances I guess, but then you can just migrate if you want to!
Interesting times!
+1, I wouldn’t have even considered moving off of Reddit until all the drama that had happened but once it did - and I found out about Lemmy - I’ve been happily more active on here in my communities of interest. Only reason I go back to Reddit these days is to encourage others to give Lemmy a go.
Same
Also, same
Yep, same for me. There are are dozens of us. DOZENS.
They didn’t win, they just didn’t fail as badly some had hoped. What was accomplished was spreading out a fair portion of their user base. Maybe not a huge percentage of it, but enough that they don’t have the same level of monopoly. People are more aware of other options (and Reddit’s flaws), and more will depart in time.
And let’s face it. Even if they only lost 3% or whatever of their user base to Lemmy, it was definitely the coolest, smartest, best-looking 3%.
“the coolest, smartest, best-looking”
Crap, I didn’t realize there were prereqs…
Well put. I think there was permanent damage done to user’s trust, but don’t see many of the smaller subreddit communities migrating away yet.
I worry that Lemmy is even more an echo chamber with a handful of default communities, I hope it grows to the point where I don’t feel obligated to join the popular communities so there is actual content to scroll through.
Nobody cares though. The reddit administration has dethroned their own site, it will never gain that back. They’re done, even if the site hangs around like a bad smell for a few more years.
The incredible thing about these articles is that they don’t make the slight mention of lemmy.
That one linked is a well written summary of what happened, but it’s partial if they don’t include the migration that happened, even if it wasn’t that big.
Now that you’ve noticed the PR industry, you may realize that basically every article is fawning of its subjects in this way these days
I’m here and I have an ad-free, troll-free, wholesome community to engage with on mostly the same topics I followed on Reddit. I declare myself the winner
I read that as toll free and was wondering if I was missing something.
Yah, too early in the morning for me!
I didn’t realize I had misread that till I read your comment. It’s late here.
Reddit won against its own users, the very people it relies on to stay relevant. In doing so, it showed a large number of users they don’t need reddit.
As the Lemmy apps get better, more and more people will check out the ad-free reddit. We can get their content without needing their platform, which is huge.
Reddit won the battle, but will it win the war?
I have never seen so many fight videos and politics on the front page. Reddit has completely lost its sense of humor and is basically a Facebook feed.
Really‽ I just checked and many of the small subreddits I used to follow became much less interesting/active if not dead.
Meanwhile, some of the bigger subs became a repost dumping ground of years old posts/images/videos/memes by fairly new accounts (i’m guessing those are bots karma farming).
The fediverse is the much better way IMHO.
In any case, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit have become too toxic to use I will keep away (though, I never had a Facebook nor a Twitter account)
First I want to say hurray at the interrobang I love seeing them in the wild!
Secondly, I recently started doing research about Electric Vehicles and made another account for reddit to ask questions. I…forgot how much of a difference it was between Reddit and Lemmy when it came to discussion. There’s so much aggression on Reddit it’s crazy.
I joined a few EV groups on Facebook for the first time in years and it was nasty there too, not to mention my feed was full of shit I didn’t even ask for.
I think I’m good here.
I am not really shocked because the only way to really beat Reddit is by leaving the platform completely as in what many did when Melon Husk took over Twitter. Mass exodus. Express displeasure by voting with your feet and GTFO.
Reddit won at building its own viable competitors like Kbin, Lemmy, and Squabbles and all the users of those platforms also won big from Reddit’s hubris. The one thing I know for sure is that they have grown Lemmy by 7000%, and that’s nothing to sneeze at.
Time will tell what happens to Reddit.
it feels like a biased, paid and made up news for spez’s money to try and revive this hole of a website. most of r/all posts are repost bots, as well as comments in them.
Sadly, for some they will believe it and feel defeated and return to reddit thinking it’s true, and watch as reddit becomes the Facebook/Myspace of this era.
How nice it will be if the IPO is an absolute disaster!
That’s not true. It may be true in r/technology, but reddit hasn’t won. It’s just that those still on Reddit didn’t make it.
We showed that we care, and we showed that we can dump them. Reddit is currently dying. It may be a slow process, but I don’t think the enshittification of reddit will stop.
Yep, and while Lemmy was rough around the edges when people started looking for alternatives, now there’s a glut of great clients and active communities. Reddit only needs one more screw up before the remaining users find a compelling alternative.
And the screwup will come. Either in another big blow or gradually.
I think “one more screw up” is a little optimistic tbh
I won’t really call that a win,
Reddit lost the trust of many users, a non insignificant part of contributors and moderators left, the enshittification of the platform is not going to stop but they lost a big part of what made Reddit great. They damaged their image and popularity.
It’s like saying Elon won by trashing Twitter. Sure he does what he wants with it but making your platform less desirable sure isn’t a win for the platform.
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Lemmy feels like the first real alternative to reddit. Everything else was a ghost town or had no moderation so only banned subs would move. This recent exodus won’t kill reddit but it created a viable reddit alternative for when they inevitably do something worse. Reddit ran as a number 2 to digg for years before digg screwed up. I can see the same happening here.
I wonder how many users and how much traffic they lost in the process.
Real or faked? Because they have tons of bots and paid traffic to make the site look busier than it actually is. Steve figured that out years ago because he’s a sociopathic liar with access to venture capital and an IPO to defraud.
Steve looks forward to the hell of interfacing with shareholders, which makes me giddy. Reddit is now a money machine and no longer a community. The enshitification is well underway.
Hi Aaron, Thankyou for leading me to find Cory Doctorow’s essay on enshittification. I think this should be taught in every higher learning institution in the world, immediately.
So happy you found it. Thanks so much for letting me know.
