• Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    2 years ago

    Your kind is engaging in heavy Soviet apologism in your own way. You think that if you are different from the tankies then everything is OK. For reasonable people it isn’t. You might call it “reformed” or whatever the fuck you call it, but your actions speak for itself. Soviet apologist scum you are and I am not impressed by your excuse of being less into it that those few Stalinists.

    Damn, this mf said “tankie” 7 years ago

  • AcidSmiley [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    2 years ago

    BTW, what this piece of shit brings up here, the claim that the nazis only copied the gulags, is a core concept in postwar nazi apologia. As if Germans would have needed a Soviet institution to copy. Germany already had built death camps when Hitler hadn’t even applied to Vienna art school, camps that were not built for reeducation of reactionaries, but for the racist extermination of the Herero and Nama peoples in Namibia. The blueprint for the nazi crimes came from colonizers like von Trotha or Lettow-Vorbeeck, who joined the Freikorps during the Weimar years to apply his murder expertise in the fight against German leftist insurrections. There is a direct line leading from Germany’s colonial crimes to the KZ system. German conservatives, even moderate ones, deny this to this day and have recently, in there usual fondness for disgusting lies, tried to paint all postcolonialism as “structurally antisemitc” and as “downplaying the holocaust” while they themselves routinely indulge in the grossest holocaust apologia such as equating the nazi regime with the DDR.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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          2 years ago

          I don’t have any real sources on hand. It was mostly finding out that the winter war wasn’t just hte Soviets being big meanies. During the part of the Russian Civil War in Finland the Whites, along with about 10,000 Germans, slaughtered the Reds and took over the country. Eventualyl WWII comes around, Stalin’s like "Hey, the Nazis are going to invade Leningrad. We need some land on this penninsula to set up defenses and we need you to take down your forts here. We’ll trade you twice as much land in return. The Finnish government was going to agree with it then some of those White generals left over from the Russian Empire were like “Nah, fuck you and fuck your city.” So Stalin was like “We weren’t asking” and invaded Finland, took a buffer zone around Leningrad, and dismantled the Finnish forts. About a year later the Nazis invaded just like everyone involved knew they were going to, and the Finns were like “Yeah, sure, we’ll go lay siege to Leningrad. I mean get our territory back.” So they invaded the Soviet Union alongside the Nazis, killed about a million Soviet Civilians during the siege of Leningrad, then eventually got their asses kicked when things turned around on the Nazis.

          So sweet, innocent Finland being invaded by the big bad Soviets is bullshit. It’s like one eighth of the entire story, framed so the guys who collaborated with the Nazis look like the goodguys.

          • StellarTabi [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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            2 years ago

            it’s like 5 minutes into a boxing match, you take a picture of one dude punching, then run to the police/news claiming this dude randomly assaulted the other guy for no reason. Repeat forever. congrats, now you know how every Soviet Union event is described in the US.

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    2 years ago

    When that poem comes up and liberals are around and they are using it try to try to generate a sort of lib version of solidarity - I like to point something out.

    Niemoller was a Hitler supporter. He called Hitler an “instrument sent by god”. But then they came for his church…