What I have learned:

  • Russia has already won the Ukraine war
  • Which NATO started
  • A lot of people in the West think that Ukraine should surrender
  • Also Ukraine was the world’s main provider of CSAM
  • Also Ukraine is exploited by the West but if they can unite with Russia then their economy and everything else will finally be alright

It’s literally like a bizarro world and everyone is over there agreeing with it. I’m genuinely confused by, who even are these people (what is the mixture of Russian bots / Russian-aligned ordinary people / confused Westerners / some other explanation.)

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    There is no coherent ideology over there besides “America/the West/capitalism should be destroyed.” Dudes would rather Pol Pot be in charge than Joe Biden.

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      Last part is true and even more insane/sad because these people are all terminally online gossip mongers that Pol Pot would have immediately executed.

      You own a computer? You don’t work in the fields? You wear glasses?

      Yep, literally executed.

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        Yeah, pretty much. I mean, my estimate in the modern day would be that “ACAB I saw a bad video on Youtube, we need communism” would turn into “oh my god what the FUCK they literally came in my house because I said the wrong thing online and SLAMMED ME ON THE GROUND and now they’re NOT LETTING ME OUT OF PRISON this is literally SO BAD LIKE THEY’RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THIS”.

        But yeah, the general principle that they don’t have any degree of connection to reality with what they’re saying, I’ll agree with you on.

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          Not even remotely satire, and you might notice I never said anyone over there “glorified or likes Pol Pot.” Back in my early Lemmy days I spent way too much time on Hexbear trying to understand, and repeatedly was told that any communist dictator, no matter how heinous, from any time in history would be preferable to any US president. They twisted in knots denying any atrocities by communists while at it. They were clear they don’t particularly like Putin, Xi, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, etc, but would prefer their leadership in every case over US leadership

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            I recently had a stray gradbear challenge me to show them any link that said Pol Pot was the shit (then he’d quit the fediverse)

            They have this theorem on ‘actual real world communism’ where you’re the weakbear if you like book communism but dare to speak ill of said regimes

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            This is just… not representative of any opinion on Hexbear in it’s entire history. But feel free to lie.

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      More than once I have seen the same person express both “America is evil and the whole system needs to be destroyed” and also “Joe Biden is bad for the country and I can’t support him”, and asked the person, well if you think America is bad and Biden is harming the country, doesn’t that mean you should support him being in charge, so he can do more damage to this evil thing?

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        No, they know that Donald is worse for the country. They want Donald in there so America collapses faster. They want China and Russia to expand.