Myers, who says he’s a licensed security guard, was sitting in his car Wednesday to conduct “overwatch” while his son trains because “he has seen numerous crimes occur” in the parking lot, according to the probable cause statement.

The surveillance footage shows Myers approach the teens with a gun in his hand, point it directly at them and then move quickly toward them, police said. One of the boys pulls a BB gun out of his pocket, lays it on the ground and extends his arms out as if to show he has nothing in his hands, police said in the document.

“Immediately after … it is clear that he has been shot because he abruptly jerks his body away from Myers and falls to the ground,” the document says.

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    All Kyle had to do to not have any of that happen is not show up. The odds of that dramatically increased when he decided to show up with a gun where he knew a bunch of people, some of whom would would be armed, would be out in force and opposing his views.

    Much like a lone women wandering late at night through a crime-ridden part of town getting raped, he may not have done anything wrong, but his bad judgement led to the expected consequences. And before we talk about defending his workplace, there’s a reason many places say to not try to stop robberies - the insurance claim is far cheaper than the cost of most outcomes of trying to stop the thefts, even the relatively positive outcomes.

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      All Kyle had to do to not have any of that happen is not show up.

      Victim blaming.

      when he decided to show up with a gun where he knew a bunch of people, some of whom would would be armed, would be out in force and opposing his views.

      Open carry state, nobody gave a fuck that he was there while armed. He showed up while obviously visibly armed, and was there walking around while obviously visibly armed, for hours, with zero negative reaction from anyone. He gave some degree of medical assistance to at least 8 people there, according to the trial, and handed out water bottles on request, while walking around yelling “medic” and “friendly”.

      Nobody attacked him for “his views”–he wasn’t even counter-protesting (and literally stated he supported BLM in an interview, to boot)! Literally every action he took there, before he was forced to defend his left not once, but three times, was objectively altruistic/benevolent. Hell, we have evidence he was cleaning graffiti off a high school earlier that same day.

      The ONLY reason things started to go south is because he put out a particular dumpster fire that happened to be set by a literal homicidal maniac (someone literally released that day from a hospital, where he was held for a recent suicide attempt), whose horrific plan was to wheel said flaming dumpster into a nearby gas station (want to take a few guesses why he wanted to bring a big fireball into a gas station?), and said maniac decided to scream death threats at him (as well as calling him and a few other people (all of whom were white, far as we know) the n-word) for putting out his fire, and later, LITERALLY tried to make good on those death threats.

      If someone else had put out that dumpster fire, they would have been attacked instead. This argument is absolutely idiotic. What, are you going to try and tell me that putting out a fire is some sort of aggressive or provocative act?

      Kyle never aggressed on anyone, and his FIRST response to EVERY act of aggression against him, was literally TO FLEE. If any of the people he ended up shooting literally LET HIM RUN AWAY, they’d all be alive/not injured. But they INSISTED on attempting their murder, and chased him down, until they had him cornered, and then tried to kill him. He prevented them from succeeding and protected his life. End of story.

      Much like a lone women wandering late at night through a crime-ridden part of town getting raped

      You’d imply it was her fault by saying that her presence is the reason it happened, lol.

      his bad judgement led to the expected consequences.

      Bad judgment to put out fires, okay, lol. That’s the lesson everyone should learn from this, right? Don’t put out a fire with an unknown cause, just in case it happened to be

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        I AGREE with you! Kyle Rittenhouse had NO CHOICE but to Cross State Lines with a Weapon! Literally NO other choice!

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          He never did any such thing, that would have been illegal. He crossed a state line, then got a weapon …… see, perfectly legal

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          It’s hilarious how after so much time there are still people brain-rotted enough by their ideology to be this smug while saying something that’s literally false lol.

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        Assuming all of this is true, and I’m not saying it isn’t, how does that in any way refute what I said? Sure, call it victim blaming if you want. I’m very careful when I have to go into bad parts of town at bad times, and avoid them altogether when I can because, even if I’m not doing anything wrong, that’s cold comfort when I’m lying in a hospital or a morgue. So far it’s worked pretty well for me. I suppose that makes me a perpetual victim. Sure, it shouldn’t have to be that way, but I don’t think my being mugged or murdered is going to tip the scales and I don’t have any great desire to be a poster child.

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          It sounds really similar to what I teach my kids about driving - it doesn’t matter if you’re right but someone else crashed into you, you’re still the one injured or dead