https://defed.xyz No real surprises, but the list pales compared to Lemmygrad’s still, they have 3x as many defeds.
>lib.lgbt defederated from hexbear
>lib.lgbt
>lib
Checks out
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> like this
The ‘\’ escape character seems to work for ‘>’
Team fuck lemmy.world
USA propaganda flooding makes me want to block the 20k people that keep spewing hateful bullshit.
The top 2 posts on their world news right now are complete propoganda.
Kyiv Post and Euiromaidanpress sure sound like impartial sources that do not have any interest in supporting one side of the war to the point where outright lying becomes acceptable, surely.
American Puppet Mouthpiece Post and Murderous Coup Press say what?
Surely the liberals will be here to screech about bias any time now!
Nationalists gonna nationalist
As a former Lemmur/Liftoff user: This is why I am now using Connect for lemmy app… It has “blocking” (hiding) of instances. The whole reddification and US centered brainwashing from lemny.“world” just got too invasive.
more like lemmy.theinternationalcommunity am I right folks
Lmao its good to see the worst instances leave.
Does anyone else find it really, really funny that the only nationality instance to defed from us so far is Canada? I mean, I get why, but I honestly expected the UK one to leave us first.
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Germany is smug lib central
The Canadian instance is landlord cental apparently
It seems like all Canadian online forums/subreddits/whatever are like 90% people who are landlords and/or landlord sympathizers.
It’s really fucking weird when you consider what percentage of the actual population are landlords (especially among the main internet using demographics)
Which is honestly really surprising to me, given the sorry state of housing in Canada.
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I’m not really surprised, sadly. A lot of their userbase is from /r/onguardforthee, which is small-L and capital-L liberal central. Their only real beef with Reddit is that the Reddit admins are making Reddit increasingly uncivil. They have no ideological problem with mainstream Reddit thought, especially when it comes to their kneejerk defence of capitalism.
That and the large amounts of err, “Ukrainian Patriots” having an influence in Canada. When your deputy prime minister is the granddaughter of a Nazi propagandist it tends to influence things. And her uncle also was a big proponent of the double genocide republishing said nazi propaganda as ‘research’.
Surprised they lasted as long as they did before defederating given that.
When your deputy prime minister is the granddaughter of a Nazi propagandist it tends to influence things.
For anyone who might be wondering, it definitely doesn’t end with her grandfather. She has denied that her grandfather was a Nazi and said claims that he was are Russian disinformation (lol). This isn’t even a her being stubborn and refusing to see the facts thing, because it has been proven that she has known this to be true going back at the very least back to the 90s.
Also uh holding this banner
Not to dox myself but in my area of Canada seeing Ukrainian flags already was on par with Canadian ones before the war and since its started they probably outnumber them 4 to 1.
Not that I care about the lack of Canadian flags but it is pretty weird when you think about it. Like it’s not like I expect a diaspora to not display any national symbols but this particular diaspora from my experience is largely like 3+ generations in Canada, so youd think lots of the connection is lost.
IIRC the diaspora post-WWII was (mostly) the nazi-adjacent ultranationalists so it makes sense that they’d be more tied to Ukraine.
I’m aware of that (and that definitely fuels the majority of the politics of this diaspora) there is a large number that came over pre-USSR times as it was essentially advertised to them to come over and ‘settle the west’.
Edit: What I think I mean to say is that a lot of ‘Ukrainian Identity’ in Canada comes from being descendants of those that arrived in the ‘first-wave’ section from here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Canadians. Which is kind of interesting because for lots of these people their last connection to the actual land of Ukraine was from over a century ago now.
Huh. Could be the same thing we have in the US with
americans? Where they pretend to be overly italian despite having never been, for instance. Something to do with not fully integrating upon their initial immigration and staying with their same cultural group for quite some time, maybe.I think that is a good explanation. Especially since Canada, more so than maybe anywhere else, seems to have like no national identity so It can be easy to hold on to other aspects.
I guess as a personal example I am like only a quarter Ukrainian by blood but it was by far the culture that was emphasized to me growing up, and in my case some of my settler ancestors are from well before Canada became a thing (my grandmother is trying to investigate whether her ancestry here dates back to the very first boat of Europeans on the continent). So if anyone should have a ‘Canadian’ identity it should be me but there is nothing there at all lol.
The weak should fear the strong
Not really the strong should unite with the weak but it doesnt work for this joke
The more I learn about nature the more I realize that concepts like ‘strong’ and ‘weak’ are truly subjective to the environment.
When today’s strong becomes tomorrow’s weak, today’s weak will be tomorrow’s strong, and protect yesterday’s strong, and vice versa. This is the best tool of a social species.
Wow that was a bad way of explaining it but I hope that made sense
Isn’t shitjustworks also Canadian?
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Wrong link, but surprisingly useful, I’ll have to pass it on.
Amazing comment, especially about defederation being the last resort.
Edit: jerboa and infinity are just being broken. I got some DIY HRT thread, saved it, but jerboa decided to not actually save it. Opened up the link in a browser and it’s showing the correct thread.
Of all of those, I’m only disappointed by pawb.social and blahaj.lemmy.
LGBT+ instances defederating eachother weakens our voice and ability to support eachother on the fediverse.
has a grip on so many people at blahaj, it just wasn’t meant to be.Prioritising ableists, chasers, and pædos over trans solidarity is wild.
They have brainworms. These people think they’re doing solidarity while they’re actually carving out fiefdoms, they think NATO is a defensive alliance (except for that one time) and by supporting it that means supporting peace, they think that they aren’t anti-communist because they support socialism and it’s actually "auth"coms who are anti-communist so opposing them/banning them counts as defending communism…
It’s peak liberalism.
I’m hoping that once blocking instances is better implemented it’ll cause people to chill on defederation policy and we can give it another shot. Though I feel like there’s a rumor mill working against us (always has been tbh) so idk.
Agreed. Also, I’m especially disheartening by the defederation by pawb.social because I have a lot of respect for Furries as a whole. They’ve done a phenomenal job of formulating their own online, social and media infrastructure, in ways that I think the left as a whole could really learn from.
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Lemmy.ca was the funniest out of them all. I wish they were still here. If Canadians were a real thing, it would so ridiculous.
Lib LGBT is the community that probably does the whole “LGBT is western decadence” stuff in reverse. If you’re gay and live in the third world, you don’t matter, unless you can be used as tool to make fun of the “backwards savages” in the third world that don’t give LGBT people rights. Despite my country legalising LGBT rights a decade before any of these western countries
Western consumerism has driven ever more individual identity and the fetishization of said identity. It’s no surprise that many are incapable of universalism, intersectionality, and larger class or social analysis.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they also do the whole ‘noble savage’ nonsense but concentrated entirely into just two-spirit people specifically
-ditNo real surprises, but the list pales compared to Lemmygrad’s still, they have 3x as many defeds.
A lot of that is because they use a block list while we use an allow list, so a lot of instances haven’t defederated with us bc we haven’t federated with them in the first place.
Do you know how you decide which instances are federated with?
I think thats still a bit undecided. Thought we trust our admins judgement and they do at least ask us first.
“Admins you can trust”, a concept of something like “politicians you can trust”. A concept completely and utterly inconcievable for a westerner.
I love we have admins who we can trust.
the blahaj defed thread being unanimously in support of the admin decision must have been funny to observe from a lib perspective. like why aren’t these commies arguing with their leaders, how can they possibly all agree??
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The posters of Hexbear live in constant fear of the iron fist of the authoritarian mods. Anyone who dares speak up against their brutal tyranny is server to the gulag along with their entire family for seven generations.
If no one else got me, I know the wonderful folks at lemmygrad got me. Can I get a
?
I have it on good authority that we LOVE our trans comrades, don’t we folks
. Yeah, we do. Some of the best trans in the world. You know I used to be a lib, look how I transitioned to a big. Beautiful. Communist. That’s right folks. The dirty rotten bourgeoisie have had their cake and ate it too for too long. Im not saying that they’re disgusting horrible, transphobic monsters. Cause that would be uncivil. That’s why I’m not saying that I hold trans shit in higher regard that a billionaire. All I’m saying is that our trans comrades’ rights are human rights
😎
there must be a way to learn this incredible power.
We are forever cursed to be the real libs
I am in awe of your power
German libs reject antifascism, more at 11
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The only other German communists I know irl are vehemently pro-Israel
Not nearly all of it, but the Antideutsche thing has moved into an extremely weird direction.
Damn we’re gonna be missing out on those phat ass white boys.
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Sad to see slrpnk there, they were a personal favourite of the small early instances.
The only annoying thing about ones like lemmy.world defedding is that I can’t post to niche communities like /c/jpegxl that were founded there for no particular reason.
The centralisation of comms into lemmy.world just because it’s the biggest and its consequences
I know there were hardware and other constraints but I still kinda wish it had ended up being lemmy.ml that absorbed more of the influx if it had to be one sort of ‘default instance’. I know it did a bit at first, but it pretty quickly flipped over to .world
I bet literature.cafe has 1984 as amongst “the classics”
Classic fairytale, sure. But what does their nonfiction look like?
I’m really glad programming.dev didn’t defederate. I first discovered lemmygrad and then hexbear through that instance. Since Stalin can suck it, here I am.
Glad to have you :rat-salute-2:
If you are looking for a good leftist take on Stalin that includes a whole chapter criticizing the USSR (but not from a U.S. propaganda angle), might I recommend Blackshirts and Reds by Michael Parenti?
Tons of free PDFs if you google it. Very readable, pretty short, and you can get a lot of the material from his lectures on YouTube if you’re pressed for time.Parenti’s analysis of Stalin in Blackshirts and Reds is the weakest part of an otherwise excellent book. I can’t really fault him as at the time of writing, the Soviet archives had not yet been analyzed in their entirety. For a better analysis that focuses specifically on Stalin, read Domenico Losurdo’s Stalin: The History and Critique of a Black Legend.
I’ve heard that mentioned a few times – definitely on the list.
Thanks, and thanks for the recommendation, I’ll check it out.
My main issue with him is due to the Tito-Stalin split. Non-aligned > USSR
I think on the other hand you really have to consider the fact that if there was no soviet union then the capitalist powers would have torn Yugoslavia apart. It took a major world power being communist to occupy all the west’s attention
Mmm I can see it. Yeah, that’s the type of criticism from the left stuff that makes sense.
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I mean, young Stalin was pretty damn good looking…
But yeah, still trying to break that habit.
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Thanks, glad to be here
Hey, that’s where I’m visiting from!
I suggest making an alt at least. The way federation is going for hexbear, it’s the first instance I’ve used where it makes sense to browse by all instead of local.
Yeah I’ll get a local account just in case they chicken out of federating with your instance like the rest
They’re still federated with lemmygrad so I doubt it. Also, FOSS is pretty communist
Stalin is sad now, don’t hurt my baby
He hurt my Yugoslavia, made it take aid from dirty capitalist pig, called Tito a fake communist and tried to get him killed. He should be sad
yeah, the tito stalin split was not good, but he is very sorry
he absolutely isn’t but sure.
I think the main thing to bear in mind about Yugoslavia is that whatever issues Yugoslavia had with the soviet union being in the soviet sphere of influence also protected them from the NATO block. After the soviet union fell apart the Germans, Americans, and British all started egging on different ethnic groups to give them resourses and kill each other for those resources and look how that turned out.
Note: these are just my thoughts on the matter. I was born in Yugoslavia, but the only thing I experienced were American bombs. My views were formed by research and talking with people from different countries who lived through most of it.
The fall of USSR was definitely a factor, but I don’t think it’s nearly as important as you’re making it out to be. Also, Stalin was the reason why Yugoslavia’s planned economy was fucked and why it had to take western money to survive. Don’t get me wrong, the western influences were definitely a factor, but there was a lot more going at the time.
The whole federation was held together by a cult of personality, nearly nothing was done to resolve internal issues and nationalism, and there wasn’t a sensible plan on what to do after Tito. That gave western agencies a route to sow dissent.
