There is nothing inherently immoral about being a police officer though (as opposed to being a Nazi). Everyone but anarchists understands the need for police officers/“Violence of the state” in some capacity.
You keep changing the goalposts on me. First of all, doctors DO have a long history of racism. Just look up racism in medicine, there are plenty of examples, including teaching for a long time in medical textbooks that black people don’t feel pain as acutely as white people. Then there’s also the whole euthanasia thing. In my home state of North Carolina, for decades doctors involuntarily sterilized black (usually homeless) patients. There was a big settlement a few years back.
To this day, black women are way more likely to die in childbirth. The reasons for for that are complicated but it has been suggested that racism is a factor (not taking the complaints and concerns of the women seriously).
I think the medical field has largely cleaned up their act, but they didn’t get there by being told that All Doctors are Bastards. They got there by the long, slow, unsexy process of reform.
I am all for police reform. But saying “all cops are bastards” is no more truthful than saying “all doctors are bastards” a century ago.
ADWB a centery ago. You’re right. All Doctors Were Bastards just like 50 years ago. My uncle when he was born he had to go through a major surgery without anesthesia because children don’t feel pain.
I specifically brought them up because of how bad they used to be. But like, literally everyone used to be racist so like everyone was bastards back then. Cops just still continue to do it openly.
Yes, there’s going to be bad people in every field. Yes, unfortunately today there will be an evil doctor here and there. That’s always going to happen.
But you said it yourself. The doctors already went through thier reform so we don’t have to hate all of them. They get punished and their license taken away if caught. If that started happening tomorrow with the police I would stop saying ACAB. But you admit yourself it’s not like that.
So in your opinion, if a Nazi was to kill a pedophile, they’re now a good Nazi?
There is nothing inherently immoral about being a police officer though (as opposed to being a Nazi). Everyone but anarchists understands the need for police officers/“Violence of the state” in some capacity.
If you have 1000 ‘good’ cops and 10 bad cops, and the good cops don’t stop the bad cops from being cops, you have 1010 bad cops
Replace cops with “doctors” or “engineers” or literally anything- why do people only make this argument with cops?
If doctors and engineers had years long history of killing and oppressing certain racial groups, people would be up in arms about them too.
But they’re not. And when there is a bad doctor or engineer they generally go to jail.
Cops though? They get paid leave and transferred to a new department.
So, 1312
You keep changing the goalposts on me. First of all, doctors DO have a long history of racism. Just look up racism in medicine, there are plenty of examples, including teaching for a long time in medical textbooks that black people don’t feel pain as acutely as white people. Then there’s also the whole euthanasia thing. In my home state of North Carolina, for decades doctors involuntarily sterilized black (usually homeless) patients. There was a big settlement a few years back.
To this day, black women are way more likely to die in childbirth. The reasons for for that are complicated but it has been suggested that racism is a factor (not taking the complaints and concerns of the women seriously).
I think the medical field has largely cleaned up their act, but they didn’t get there by being told that All Doctors are Bastards. They got there by the long, slow, unsexy process of reform.
I am all for police reform. But saying “all cops are bastards” is no more truthful than saying “all doctors are bastards” a century ago.
Also, don’t say I’m changing the goal posts by talking about doctors when you were literally the one to bring up doctors first haha
ADWB a centery ago. You’re right. All Doctors Were Bastards just like 50 years ago. My uncle when he was born he had to go through a major surgery without anesthesia because children don’t feel pain.
I specifically brought them up because of how bad they used to be. But like, literally everyone used to be racist so like everyone was bastards back then. Cops just still continue to do it openly.
Yes, there’s going to be bad people in every field. Yes, unfortunately today there will be an evil doctor here and there. That’s always going to happen.
But you said it yourself. The doctors already went through thier reform so we don’t have to hate all of them. They get punished and their license taken away if caught. If that started happening tomorrow with the police I would stop saying ACAB. But you admit yourself it’s not like that.
Lastly, I’ve got familiy members that are police officers with one being a captain and another that’s a doctor.
Take a wild guess which group I like to hang out with when there with friends.
If your society is regulated by Nazis, i blame the entire country and all its citizens.
the collective would have embraced facism and murderous eugenics as guiding principles.
So it is the fault of the citizens, because they created, nurtured, and tolerated an environment to sustain the Nazis.
So all citizens are bad.
I mean yeah people who usually back the blue are usually pieces of shit.
And I say this as someone who’s mother was a police officer.