When Google sabotages network neutrality by blocking Tor and Invidious instances, is it wise for the fedi to facilitate the sharing of #Youtube links?

Fedi instance operators would probably not tolerate links into Facebook’s walled-garden if people were to start polluting an otherwise open community with them. So Youtube links should probably be treated with contempt during periods where Google’s DoS attack is underway.

  • breadsmasher@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Google and youtube are shitty companies.

    But I dont understand how blocking external clients would infringe on net neutrality?

    • GetOffMyLan@programming.dev
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      2 months ago

      It’s not. Net neutrality is about treating all network packets equally during transmission. Like mobile data operators giving free social media.

      Server owners blocking traffic from certain IPs is not that at all.

    • DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz
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      2 months ago

      I would argue that google’s size, position, and status as something approaching monopoly for the service of routing internet traffic assigns it to a position somewhere among the order of ISPs. In fact, now I consider it, it very much is an ISP in the original sense, too: google fiber is a thing (or maybe was- did they kill that, too?). On that basis, its blocking invidious and tor are very much in violation of the spirit and the letter of net neutrality. Then again, they killed the law, so.

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    2 months ago

    I’m commenting to follow this discussion. I’ve used invidious, and freetube for years to avoid being tracked by yt. But that strategy doesn’t work as well as it used to. How shall we proceed?

    • LunchMoneyThief@links.hackliberty.org
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      2 months ago

      If they succeed in fully blocking mitigations, then I will simply drop youtube (and the content it holds hostage) from my life. I’ve done this with other proprietary abusers.