they had been aggressing before that too; they put missiles in Turkey first, originally causing the Cuban missile crisis – then refused to ratify the already-agreed-on Salt II treaty (put doi# into sci-hub), while instead Bzrezinski and Carter financed and trained terrorists and warlords who r*pe children and throw acid at schoolgirls directly to create terror and crises in Communist Afghan which bordered SSRs with which there were many exchange and education programs so that they could push the USSR into a “vietnamese quagmire,”; which eventually grew into such a catastrophic organized international-terrorist-fueled civil war scenario that after the DRA had already asked for assistance 20 times and was being rebuffed even as Soviet advisors and ambassadors were murdered with their families by extremists, the Soviets eventually decided to choose what they deemed the “least bad” option and invaded. (China also helped the muhajideen terrorists, including facilitating CIA/ISI training camps near Xinjiang, and created their own blowback for that. Post-split Chinese foreign policy was UNHINGED and SHITTY DOO DOO ASS and I’m thankful they wised up into non-intervention).

and then after all that played out and the US backed the Yeltsin coup where he abolished the parliament impeaching him and shelled the building killing hundreds, the US continued as being the ones as you said been the aggressor. It was them backing out of every missile treaty one by one, after and while and remilitarizing Europe and expanding ever eastward in a move sponsored directly by arms dealers of whom Democrats are beneficiary, being heavily patronized and vice-versa by those same death-merchants. .

The US and its EU vassal-cartel and their NATO military vanguard-of-neocolonialism for which IMF and World Bank are the preeminent institutional entities of, have always been the aggressor. It’s so bizarre western media calls Putin like he’s an unhinged megalomaniac who only knows violence when in reality he’s an incorrigible neolib who had deluded himself and others for decades the US might ever listen to their concerns and be anything different than a relentless aggressor. And Putin had been an incorrigible moderate against most of the Duma (from Communists to rightwingers) during all of this Ukraine stuff since 2014. If they had gone in in 2014 and said “absolyutna nyet” after the nazi-spearheaded coup, which many had pushed for and continued to over the years, there might have been 1000-2000 dead at most and none of this shit would have become so horrendous. But instead he only pulled the trigger on Crimea because of the Black Sea Fleet and otherwise continually blocked the Duma’s demands, and dragged feet on and undermined the DNR/LNR demands and requests, instead letting them get shot and tortured and murdered and smashed out of Odessa and Kherson and Mariupol by Nazis and suffer a bunch of awful political struggles and protracted violence and shellings; while the west NATO empire openly armed and trained more and more of the overtly anti-Russian military and fascist groups to be a battering ram for the largest most violent empire that has ever existed, the USA.

He stood as an incorrigible collaborationist moderate pushing for agreements and compromises with the west, who anyone with a brain could tell was never intending on following through with any of it BECAUSE THEY WERE THE DRIVING FORCE OF IT ALL GOING THIS WAY IN THE FIRST PLACE; while allowing not only the arming and training of the openly anti-Russian military and militias operating in Ukraine to kill Russians; but also allowing the corrupted growth of an entire generation, now today old-enough to fire a gun, have the most formative years of their upbringing guided through Azov and C-14’s state-funded Nazi “education centers,” Nazi “community organizations,” and Nazi-youth military summer-camps; that if Putin was half the comicbook villain western liberals think he is, or if he had just remembered his Soviet education — his dialectical- and historical materialist education which he undoubtedly got; he would not have held such delusions and the world wouldn’t be teetering over nuclear oblivion like this with so many pointless tens-to-hundreds-of-thousands dead and half a million wounded, и за что? зачем?

If NATO weapons are used in long range strikes in Russia, if would require NATO service members to input the targeting information, and NATO satellites to guide the weapons. That is why Russia would then consider these NATO countries to have carried out an attack on Russian soil in such a scenario. Ukraine is more than welcome to carry out long range strikes into Russia with its own capabilities and weapons, with it’s own military service members inputting the targeting data, in fact they have done so many times before, with success. I’m sure you can appreciate the difference between the two scenarios.

Secondly, one has to ask if the US and NATO wants to open this “Pandora’s box” in effect. If they can give Ukraine, or any other proxy, advanced long range weaponry to strike at Russia, Russia can respond in turn. There have already been talks between Russia and the Houthis/Ansarallah on the acquisition of advanced Russian anti ship supersonic cruise missiles, such missiles could present a serious threat to the US Navy in the region. There are many US military bases around the world, and many groups of people that want them gone. These groups would take Russian weapons in a heartbeat. This is before we even talk about anti satellite weaponry, nuclear testing, and any other myriad of responses. I’d prefer if we keep this “Pandora’s box” closed.

Yep, you got it. There is absolutely no relevant history leading up to this moment. In fact, history ended in the early 90s.

It sounds similar to the plot of the final season of

to me.

idk just what i’ve taken from the meme version of posadism, seems hard to rally planetary resources/energy for interstellar travel if you are busy giving all of your resources to inbred monarchs or finance ghouls and making economic decisions based on artificial gambling (stocks) and the short term profit of several large scale scams.

It wasn’t exactly the cool Russia back then, either 🍕🛖

Nuclear? I hardly know 'er HAR HAR HAR

This is how bernie could still win

US is operating from those bases so it would be interesting if they did.

I’m going to get so downvoted for this, lol. Wasn’t Putin who attacked Ukraine? So who is escalating? At this moment we have two major criminals who are stubborn over their goals and won’t stop fucking killing and wars. Fuck them all. You can’t shit on USA and praise Russia. Same scummy coin, just different sides. They would all like to rule the world, fuck them.

Also, stupid Putin ruined the only paradise in the world, Chernobyl. You see, years after the nuclear accident, nature in Chernobyl started to flourish, animals came back because there was no humans there. A fucking paradise, I tell you. And then fucking Putin’s troops march through Chernobyl, raise the radioactive dust and scare my animals with their war machines. So fuck that guy. I don’t know why are you defending that asshole here, but he’s an asshole and a murderer.

I don’t live near enough to anything that would take a direct hit, so I am left struggling either way

For those who don’t understand why doing deep strikes inside Russia with NATO supplied missiles is a declaration of War on Russia by NATO. These long range missiles needs satellites to get coordinates and guidance, Ukraine obviously does not have them, which means NATO is directly involved in launching these missiles. If these Western leaders are that crazy to directly confront Russia, we might have WWIII.

Putin also mentioned an attack on Belarus explicitly, so maybe they’re expecting something there too?

I don’t think there is something explicit, but Poland and Baltic yapping dogs of empire actively try to coup Belarus for decade now and i read some crackpots saying NATO could do “an SMO in Belarus that totally wouldn’t be war, isn’t it” and using one of the myriad NATO maneuvers in the region to cook up some provocation.

So even if there’s nothing but talk, Belarus is still percieved as next area of proxy conflict and Putin wants to cut that out by saying attack on Belarus is attack on Russia. He also getting points for that in Belarus which finally got disillusioned about cooperation with west few years ago.

That’s the gist of what I heard. I’m scared if he makes good on it. I hate that the fate of billions has been toyed with like this since the invention of atomic weapons.