Hope kbin continues to do well. I’ve found it to be an adequate reddit replacement for now, but we definitely need the content to keep people engaged.
I think right now kbin and the rest of the fediverse has enough content to keep me coming back every day haha. Though it’s lacking some of the more niche communities that reddit has. we’ll get there though.
If you build it, they will come.
It annoyed the crap out of me trying to sign up to kbin.
The freaking captcha is laggy as hell, and I finally get things confirmed, and I can’t log in with the exact copy/pasted info I just used to sign up
Which is off topic, but I needed to vent lol
However, i finally got through, so there’s that!
That would be frustrating. I did not have the same experience. It was fairly easy for me.
That said, the admin of this instance and developer of kbin has said that they are doing some stress testing and additional troubleshooting that will impact performance. So I would venture to bet you ran into either part of that testing, or a peak load time.
All that testing needs to be done, but should pass.
Same here. Wasn’t working when I tried to sign up a few days ago, but came back today and it let me login no probs. Lots of good stuff here so far too!
Yes, I had troubles too but probably had a lot to do with the influx so I won’t hold it against them. I did however land on mastodon because it wasn’t experiencing issues which I like a lot. Today has been the first day kbin has been usable for me so we’ll see!
I had 0 issues, but I think I was still early enough before the servers imploded. Never heard back from beehaw after a whole week though, fuck them.
With Beehaw manually approving users, they won’t keep up with kbin/lemmy. It might be a nice site, but I don’t want to write an essay to leave a comment.
On the plus side, you can still subscribe and comment on their communities (as long as your instance isn’t defederated like lemmy.world, but that’s mostly a short term issue).
Hell I did write the essay 4 days ago and still nothing from what I can tell, gave up, kinda glad tho, kinda likin kbin more.
I just clicked on one of the federated login options. Works great.
What are the other 14? I only see 6 in the image.
You can see them all here: https://fedidb.org/ mid way down on the left.
Its just fedidb.org, this is the complete list:
Even though this is cool, it has nothing to do with the Reddit drama. The June numbers aren’t out yet. I don’t know if it updates the previous month on the first of the new month but for now it does explicitly say that the numbers are for May 2023.
Lots of users going to mastodon. Can someone ELI5 mastodon vs kbin?
Twitter vs Reddit
I think the easiest way to explain mastodon vs kbin is to compare mastodon to lemmy. (At least, this is how I look at it)
- Mastodon looks at the world through time-based history of what people post. The topic, or how many likes/upvotes does not matter so much as the time. Though replies to other posts are grouped together. This is how twitter behaves.
- Lemmy looks at the world through posts made about a topic. The time posted does not matter as much as the topic. Replies are called grouped under the posts by people in a tree structure. While how many upvotes usually factors into how the replies are ordered, there are multiple options on how things are ordered. This is how reddit behaves.
Kbin can look at the world in two ways, with “Threads” being a topic based one and “Microblogs” being time based. As they (mastodon, kbin and lemmy) speak the same ‘language’ you can load and interact with content across the software, just it will present it in the way the particular software thinks about the world.
Is it possible to subscribe to a Mastodon instance from Lemmy? Normally you would use !<community>@<instance>, but Mastodon doesn’t seem to have “communities” from what I can tell.
I don’t think so, but there may be a way.
Mastodon has the idea of ‘Groups’ (which are Kbin Magazines and Lemmy Communities), but it seems to not have methods of creating one. While you can subscribe to hashtags in Mastodon, I don’t think they are equivalent.
Groups/Communities seem to be a non-native concept for Mastodon, but it seem to treat it as a person (from the short time I subscribed to a lemmy group/community from mastodon, it seems you get an update for every comment or reply made to any topic)
The idea of following a person (or subscribing to them) seems to be a non-native concept in Lemmy and there doesn’t seem to be any way to support it.
@[email protected]
Groups (facebook-style groups) are on the roadmap for mastodon. Once they have groups, they should™ federate with lemmy. So even if you cannot follow a mastodon USER, it should be possible to follow a mastodon GROUP when they get added.
Mastodon is like Twitter.
Mastodon is more Twitter-like; Lemmy is Reddit-like; KBin has elements of both (Magazines and Threads being more Reddit-like, Microblog view being vaguely like Twitter). Mastodon has had a couple of big influxes of people considering leaving Twitter, similar to how Kbin and Lemmy are getting a lot of interest considering leaving Reddit.
What’s intriguing is that because they all use the same protocol (ActivityPub), people on Kbin can vote and comment on Lemmy posts, and Mastodon users can comment on Kbin or Lemmy posts. This is called federation, and software that uses ActivityPub is considered part of the “fediverse”. There are also dozens of other fediverse software platforms – Pixelfed is Instagram-like, Bookwyrm is goodreads-like, micro.blog and WriteFreely and others are blogs, etc etc. – that can all all interact, at least somewhat. Of course the reality’s more confusing, sometimes you can’t interact between different sites or software, and sometimes interactions are limited (for example you can’t vote on Kbin or Lemmy threads from Mastodon).
Here’s a post I made a few days ago from a Mastodon account that’s also visible in the Lemmy fediverse community, because I tagged the community. It didn’t go to Kbin (even though I tagged a Magazine) because federation wasn’t working at the time; and some of the replies in on Mastodon went to Lemmy as well, others didn’t, who knows why. Oh well. Still, it’s amazing when it works!
Mastodon is to Twitter as kbin is to Reddit. Mastodon: a feed of posts from people and/or hashtags you subscribed to. kbin: a set of rooms (magazines) that you subscribed to. So kbin is more like a bunch of smaller bulletin boards / forums, while Mastodon is a linear time ordered list of posts from people/things you like.
mastodon is styled like twitter. If you take a look at the “microblog” section of kbin you’ll get a gist of mastodon style stuff.
kbin also has “threads” which we’re in right now, that’s styled more after reddit.
mastodon and kbin users can interact and talk with each other just fine. so it’s just a matter of which instance you’re on, and the ui you prefer.
Good for Kbin.
Here I was hoping it would be new magazines for me to sub too. Gonna take a while to acclimate to new terminology.
