Hello everyone! Hestia here with a new Megathread! Years ago, before I transitioned and when I was still in college I took an anthropology class. My favorite part of the class was when we were covering different gender customs across the globe and got to make a report on one of them. I can’t remember exactly which one I chose for that project, but what I do remember is a map with different pins scattered on it with various forms of gender-queerness. I decided to track it down and share it with you folks!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?ll=8.016975588774075%2C64.4248907814756&z=2&mid=1zDWxhBN5aOofwpE-FkZWQsiFDlE

Edit: you have to open this in a browser, if you’re on a phone it will automatically try to open it in Google maps and won’t bring up the info.

This map provides a brief summary of these genders, but does not go in depth. If you find any you’re interested in, feel free to do some further research and share your findings here. I’ll pin a comment to this post you can attach them. I’m going to share a couple that I found interesting and decided to look further into myself, both of them are non-binary and native american in origin.

The first one I want to talk about is the Winkte, which is a third gender role that was particulatly notable in the Lakota tribe The Winkte are seen as half-men, half-women, and considered sacred. They are typically AMAB and historically have served unique roles in matters of romance and matchmaking and often served as intermediaries for prospecting couples and their families. They also participated in war parties, functioning primarily as witnesses to battle and as doctors to care for the injured. They were also seen as seers, able to forsee paths to victory.

https://www.sdpb.org/blogs/arts-and-culture/the-winkte-and-the-hundred-in-hand/

This next one I’m going to talk about seems mostly local to the Zuni people called the “Lhamana” and I find the Zuni culture to be particularly fascinating, even just doing a cursory glance at it.

Gender roles were well defined in Zuni culture, but the Zuni also valued the concept of a “middle” as it represented stability. This originates from their creation myth, which I won’t go in detail here because I don’t feel qualified to summarize it, but it’s in the link down below.

The Zuni culture is pretty neat and they don’t refer to gender when talking about children. They believed that gender wasn’t an inborn trait but something you acquired as you approached puberty. I wish this was the western approach, but alas.

As children approach puberty they begin to differentiate through different hair styles or clothing choices. AFAB Lhamana would grind corn and make a bowl of stew when they get their first period. There’s probably some cultural significance to this, but I’m not going to do a deep dive on it right now. AMAB Lhamana would start to wear dresses once they hit puberty and start performing women’s work. Both AMAB and AFAB Lhamana were allowed to switch between male and female gender roles as they pleased.

https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/The-Middle-Gender-in-Zuni-Religion

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    I can’t sleep so I have come to ramble

    aromantic ramblings

    The gush posts that happen in these threads get me thinking about my aromanticism or potential lack thereof again. I kind of low key hate never understanding this part of myself.

    A while ago I thought I’d cracked the code with “you know what I think I just don’t like the idea of dating as a guy,” but then I slipped back into “no I’m definitely just aro.”

    I keep reading about the aromantic experience and relating heavily. Like for example, I couldn’t even begin to tell you where the line is between platonic and romantic love. This is certainly muddied by the fact that I just simply do not have a sex drive at all, and thus sexual interest has never been a part of the equation for me.

    But I often find myself wondering if I’ve actually never been flirted with, or if I’m just too aromantic to have ever picked up on it. And my thing is why do I care so much? Why do I keep asking myself that question? Honestly I think the answer is I want to be flirted with. I think it comes down to not feeling lovable and craving external validation to the contrary. But what’s confusing is I don’t want it to stop at flirting. I want to be continuously loved by someone and I want to love them back. I just don’t know what that looks like, but it sounds like being into someone.

    Reading the gush posts, I relate to them. I know I’ve felt those ways before about people. I think I’d describe all of my close friends in a similar way. I’d describe my sister that way. I love my sister so god damn much and would do anything for her, but obviously I’m not interested in dating her. I’m capable of love I just don’t know what the fuck that looks like in a romantic context.

    Maybe it’s priority that I crave. Maybe I just want to be someone’s priority and for them to be a priority of mine. I don’t really care if they also have that kind of thing with someone else, so maybe I’m also poly?

    Or maybe it really is just the simplest solution and I’m just aroace and I will never understand romantic attraction and all of my relationships will always and forever be platonic.

    Idk. I’m not sure if I’m making much sense but this was mostly a journaling exercise anyway. Hopefully sleeping will come easier now that I’ve put some of this to words.