• ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.ml
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      Just bc you aren’t on the battle field doesn’t mean you aren’t at war with Russia. The US and NATO are just using Ukrainians to fight their war

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        Because Ukrainians don’t have agency and only want to keep their own culture and language because some empire tells them to /s

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          I didn’t say that at all

          You can both be exploited and have agency. The actions of the Ukrainian government also does not reflect the will of its people anymore to be clear.

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              The resumed and emboldened massacre of eastern Ukranians by the banderite coup government, same as the decade that led up to this, except without even the tissue-thin veneer of western disapproval

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                  Yes, exactly. The Eastern Ukranians who got sick of being terrorized by marauding Azovites and petitioned Russia for protection will be slaughtered wholesale, man woman and child, and your only response is “well they shouldn’t have thrown in with the orcs for protectionsmuglord” Perhaps the US-backed nazi government shouldn’t have spent ten years murdering them with no repercussions then? Just a thought.

                  Clearly, a government being aligned with Bad Country for any reason is enough for you to turn off your empathy completely. It’s no wonder you’re on the side of the goose-steppers and SS-applauders.

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                    sick of being terrorized by marauding Azovites

                    Citation needed

                    petitioned Russia for protection

                    Citation needed

                    US-backed

                    Citation needed

                    nazi government

                    Citation needed

                    spent ten years murdering them with no repercussions

                    Citation needed

                    Clearly, a government being aligned with Bad Country for any reason is enough for you to turn off your empathy completely. It’s no wonder you’re on the side of the goose-steppers and SS-applauders

                    Which statement of mine makes you arrive at such a conclusion?

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        I like that you’re sharing your opinion. I just want more information about it, so I can either agree or disagree. What about dissolving NATO would be “Good for humanity”?

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        I’m not in the US

        It has to do with the fact that my country exists because NATO protects it. Russia violates our airspace regularly.

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                k man

                All Russia has to do is stop being aggressive to its neighbors and NATO will automatically start falling apart. NATO support before Russia invaded Ukraine was decreasing.

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                  All Russia has to do is stop being aggressive to its neighbors and NATO will automatically start falling apart

                  Then why was it that when the Russian Federation asked to join NATO back in the 90’s they were refused?

                  What about when the Soviet Union asked to join back in like '48 was it denied?

                  Because it exists to be aggressive toward designated enemies of the US

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                    Then why was it that when the Russian Federation asked to join NATO back in the 90’s they were refused?

                    Do you have a source for this? I can’t find any reference apart from a random interview given by Putin.

                    What about when the Soviet Union asked to join back in like '48 was it denied?

                    It was in '54. It’s hard to know why it was rejected since all those conversations are classified, but publically it was stated that Russia’s lack of democracy was the cause. I’m sure US hatred of communism had an influence.

                    Though I’m not sure that USSR had honest intentions of being a long term member instead of using it as opportunity to sabotage the treaty that would be negative for their interests in the works at the time.

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                  America and 18 other countries invaded Russia in 1918 to restore the monarchy, kicking off a century of relentless aggression. They aren’t the ones who started this cycle and they’re not the ones with the power to stop it. We are.