He’ll pull the old Pedo Guy defence and say that’s just a friendly wave in South Africa.
Elon Musk is a Pedo Guy.
“I can’t be prejudiced. I’m a white billionaire from old money in South Africa.”
According to the article, Walz said on MSNBC
“We spent three days debating, or trying to debate that ‘President Musk’ gave a Nazi salute. Of course he did”
Then one of Musk’s Xitter followers said “I hope Elon sues [Walz] for all he’s worth.” to which Musk replied “I think I will”.
So, Musk was just talking out his ass, and it’s doubtful he’ll actually file suit.
This has all got me thinking, how else can Musk be manipulated? Exacerbating cat fights in the administration and surrounding MAGAsphere seems like one of the most promising ways to prevent them from doing too much damage.
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Ok but… It’s not an accusation. He did do that.
In any decent country, this would go to court and Musk would be a laughing stock. In America though? That idiot might win.
Twice.
…and then he made holocaust jokes
…and then he attended a German Nazi rally
…and then the administration he works with announced a concentration camp for undesirable immigrants
Hey Felon Musk, if you don’t want people accusing you of being a Nazi, then don’t do Nazi shit. It’s not a hard concept to understand once you pull your head out of your ass.
But he does want it.
Public figure “freeze peach” absolutist Elon Musk thinks the first amendment is his little bitch.
“Let’s essentially tell trans people to kill themselves but when I do two full-throated heils at inauguration live, how dare you call them what they are.”
I hope he free speech’s his way to a bullet.
I can’t wait for a court to rule that he did in fact do a Nazi salute.
But then again, the Texas 5th Circuit Court won’t rule that way and we all know it.
This would actually be incredible if a court legally determined it to be a nazi salute.
It was a nazi salute done by a nazi to a nazi in a room full of nazis… I am not sure what else you would call it.
nobody thinks it wasn’t a nazi salute, but some people will argue that it wasn’t as a form of trolling… get you to spend energy arguing pointlessly instead of doing things that change things
Discovery demands all Elon’s private messages that could be antisemitic.
And all IP addresses of all Twitter users to find all his sock puppets he uses to be even more antisemitic with.
This is the real tea tbh. We all know what his main account is doing. Show us the alts he uses when he doesn’t feel comfortable being fashy on main.
As a Minnesotan, I’m cool with spending my money to air the Nazi’s dirty laundry.
Private messages from a person who owns the website…
Pedo guy Elon Musk, the pedo, wants to sue for libel?
I mean, if someone is calling you a Nazi that seems like a reason to want to do it, even if you are a nazi. Gotta protect your ego and identity and try to squash it from continuing.
But calling it a nazi salute, is pretty factual. I don’t know if Tim out right called him a nazi or just said it was a nazi salute, but there’s zero grounds for a case if it was just the action.
And in the single universe in the entire multiverse where Elon truly believes it wasn’t a nazi salute and the intentions were pure, it was still a nazi salute.
Is he going to sue everyone else with eyes too? It’s not an accusation. You did it, stand by it.
I hope the Nazi does, so he has to describe how elon’s Nazi salute and the Nazis doing the Nazi salute are different.
Why ? He made the salute.
Being a Nazi is as American as apple pie. Should I not accuse people of eating pie? Are Nazi salutes not ok? What if you salute them in the pussy? I’d imagine this case would be thrown out because being a Nazi isn’t a blemish on your character in the US.
Especially American billionaire entrepreneurs being/sympathizing Nazis.
Ford would be delighted.
He’s a lot like trump. When you have that much money, it’s basically infinite, you get anything you want, anything. So you just do stuff, whatever pops into your head, because there are no consequences. When there are no consequences, nothing matters. You’re the main character, everything revolves around you. What does that do to a person’s mind? We see the answer before us in Musk and Trump.
It must get so boring, when you’re surrounded by people who are nothing more than background characters in your movie, servants at your beck and call, sycophants flattering you. So you have to do outrageous things to get people to react. Do a nazi salute. Threaten to invade Greenland or Panama. Get them to say something against you, so you can punish them, to feel your power. Sue them, destroy them, squash them like a bug because you need to prove to yourself over and over that you’re not the pathetic loser your father always said you were.
no one (e.g. musk) should ever have this much money - and therefore this much unfettered power. billionaires should not exist. the fact that they do is an existential global danger.
his “fuck you in particular” money threatens every. single. person… simultaneously.
There are a lot of Teslas near where I live. A lot.
But today I found myself behind a Nissan Leaf. I got to thinking, “So many people praise Tesla’s electric system and say they still prefer it over hybrids due to its environmental impact. But giving money to Musk means enabling untold damage to society, and his alliance with right-wingers guarantees that his presence will make this environment worse.” I mean, if he spent his time in Trump’s inner circle convincing them that electric cars are better, that would be fantastic. But no. We all know that’s not going to happen. He definitely has the power to make a positive impact on the world, but he won’t.
I live in a pretty red area and the increasing number of, what I assume are, second hand teslas is pretty striking. a growing number of fuglytrucks as well. I imagine that some of these teslas are simply “good buys”, but it feels like a whole lot of self sorting. teslas are the new new red hat.
had a replace a car recently - went with a second hand hybrid. you can be sure that muskmobiles were not even a consideration. funny how history rhymes with fascism and cars.
no one (e.g. musk) should ever have this much money - and therefore this much unfettered power.
Well, yes. It’s pretty obvious how bad that is for society.
But the problem is that he does have that much money. And that much power that is derived from it.
So what practical things can we do about it?
in the short term, not much aside from… create local community and support structure, zero pre-compliance, non-compliance at every turn, malicious compliance if under threat, aggitate at every opportunity to elicit the same from our representatives / leaders and replace them as needed. if you are able, lead yourself. tar anyone that trolls with or tries to make fascist symbols normal - if we cant touch musk then do it to his sycophants. dont let the Nazi clerics cleric. record by any means available everything you can names, titles and actions. there may come a a day of reckoning for these people.
none of this is a real plan, and all of this may be fruitless in the near term, but could be important for cohesion in the now and for future, less polite resistance. I think the likelihood of mass violence is upon us. buy a firearm and learn how to use it (for self defence, of course - amirite?). we perhaps have one more opportunity to even pretend to prop up a political resistance. I guess organize around, and focus on that politically. everything else is protecting yourself, your family and the vulnerable.
medium term and specific to the musks of the world, break the unholy alliance between govt. and subsidized for-profit private industry. it has always been nothing more than a one way transfer of wealth from the many to the few. how you do that in the US with the current, materialized political system, I dont know. we are so far off the edge of the cliff right now, I cant even see ground. I can say that the current looting of the US cadaver will hasten the actualization of some sort of replacement - cant steal whats all been stolen already.
in my talks with the slightly less rabid trumpers (read: able to form coherent, non-screamy mouth sounds), their attitude has been “burn it to the ground so that we can remake it in our image” - this has been said to me more than once. how do you fight that? logic seems useless against short term nihilism and a scorched earth ambition. monolithic organisms are usually easier to infect - citizens united massively deepened the infection in both parties and the GOP has been further subsumed in the most bloodlessly violent corporate takeover possible.
I expect the system will almost certainly collapse because enough people want it to. who, if anyone, will be left to pick up the pieces? find like minded folks, whatever that means to you, and reach out to establish as many group alliances as you can.
I apologize if I have answered your question poorly. my mind hurts. my being hurts. I am sure that, like me, almost everyone here has loved ones that are immediate candidates for the first trains… and I am at the “do the opposite of what the fascists say” stage… and thats all I have right now.
Damn, that hurt and it wasn’t even directed at me.
