“Amazon’s strategy is very blatantly: get the Latino vote,” said Medelius-Marsano. “What we hear from people in all departments, in all shifts, is that Amazon is painting CAUSE as a black union and saying, ‘All the black folks are lazy and the Hispanics are the ones that work the hardest, and the union is only trying to protect lazy people.’”
Amazing. Racist fucks.
This reads like a headline from the 1970s. Fuck, we moved back so much. Next segregation will return…
“so the police acts as the repressive arm of the bourgeoisie?”
“always has been”
Police executing their core duty.
People splutter with the “but their motto is ‘protect & serve’” without ever asking “who”
Everything old is new again.
And this is why we have to be reminded occasionally that in any revolutionary or resistance situation, it’s the police that are the primary and first adversary. That’s who you go after first, not politicians, not mayors or governors or CEOs.
Where is this theory coming from? Because I’ve never heard it. This sounds much too 1) simplistic and 2) universalized. Every revolutionary moment happens under its own specific conditions, necessitating its own specific responses. Violence may come from the police, from the military, from the “intelligence community,” from private security, from organized crime syndicates, from paramilitary brownshirts, or any combination thereof.
It comes from partisans and us history.
While the police in the us have been infiltrated by the far right, there are other people willing to get in there and observe.
Secondly, look at uprisings in the past and present the cops are the first line of offense against the people. That’s kinda what the post is about, cops being used as a tool of the state to oppress workers. Look at some of the union wars from back in the day, it was cops that were the first line used to try and beak protests and disrupt unions.
If shit ever pops off, it takes time to mobilize national guard, and even longer for other forces. But cops are in every town, every city, every county, and they’ve been militarized heavily. They’ve been trained to think of themselves as warriors against the populace, wherein the populace are the bad guys, and they’re the thin blue line.
This is backed up by people that are cops, and know damn good and well that the infiltration by the far right is in there, waiting for when it’s time to stop pretending. There are way less people in there on behalf of left wing groups, but they exist.
But there is a limit to it. Once there’s enough power secured, the pretense goes away, and the police become an army in every way that matters, an ss, a gestapo. At that point, we’re deep into dystopia and revolution is no longer a realistic option, it goes to resistance and a gradual push, asymmetric activity.
With the cops, it isn’t really infiltration. It is already a far right institution and they know when to make racist jokes amongst themselves vs. how to act in public.
The task is to spread consciousness of the function of the police and why the criminal punishment system will not provide justice, just oppression of the left. To combat cops we must be organized and knowledgable, which by and large most people are not, including those who call themselves left, socialist, etc.
If any reader is not in an org, I recommend that you join one. If you don’t feel comfortable choosing one yet, then focus on your political education until you can. Read the history and theory of socialism, become media critical and literate, and be ready to understand the world much better, e.g. of needing to know productivity, export values, and balances of payment in order to correctly orient yourweld politically. You can only find correct ideas by discriminating between them using facts. And then, once organizing, make sure to educate others and recruit organically but with urgency.
We need more leftists to become police officers.
Absolutely not. That is class traitor nonsense.
The cops are the enemy. You can try to get information out of some of them when things go down, maybe, but they are already an enemy gang.
Once you start throwing class traitor and bootlicker around, you become the asshole. Don’t become the asshole.
Cops are literally class traitors. They are workers employed by the state to oppress workers in favor of bourgeois interests. They organize their efforts around protecting shops from perceived threats to profits - unhoused people just exustinfmg nearby, often the same for black people, teenagers just spending time together, etc. They are strikebreakers and the front line enforcing state-sponsored marginalization, itself a reflection of ruling class interests.
I am using the term correctly and it is not some kind of schoolyard insult.
Here’s the problem with all that. You weren’t calling cops class traitors, you were calling a fellow user a class traitor for suggesting that the left infiltrate the cops to counter the influence of the right, and thereby weaken or dismantle the institution.
So, you know, maybe don’t pretend that’s not what you were doing so you can pound your pulpit some more
So you think leftists can’t infiltrate and take over organizations like the right can?
Taking down from within is a fully valid tactic when dealing with an enemy dude.
So you think leftists can’t infiltrate and take over organizations like the right can?
Not the cops, no. Of course not. By the time the left was large enough to try that it would have no need to, but really it is inherently a far-right institution. It’s like saying your big plan is to infiltrate and take over the Nazis by doing Nazi things for decades. Friend, you don’t do that, it is counterproductive. You shoot the Nazis.
As I said in my other comment, the right isn’t “infiltrating” the cops. The cops have always been far right.
Taking down from within is a fully valid tactic when dealing with an enemy dude.
Being this vague means it is an unserious idea. It feels like we are talking about cartoons or Batman vs. Superman or something. The only orgs the left can usefully take over - really, lead - are those with which we have some kind of alignment and expectation of useful outcomes. Historically, institutions like unions. Even then, we are not taking them over, we are gaining trust and power so that we can ensure alignment of organized labor with our ends rather than those of the ruling class, which will constantly try to defang labor.
Cops are our enemies. They are, inherently, a force for ruling class interests. The only valid end goal of “infiltration” would be to get them to all shoot each other or something, and even that is silly because they’re not going to do that because we are sheriffs or something. They would do that if their little gangs have turf wars due to a destabilized state.
Being this vague means it is an unserious idea
“Take down the cops”. So you’re suggesting we just shoot them all? Is that your idea of a not vague idea?
We do need some sort of police force, always. As much as they suck, some people will always suck, and you need an enforcement measure to help prevent theft, rape, and murder and remove from society those who commit the latter two.
I personally think taking over from within is viable
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