• SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
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    it was only a matter of time. Ms Marvel had openly Muslim characters and Turning Red had Buddhists.

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    Religion or LGBT is a false dichotomy and shit like this just fuels division.

    Fuck you Disney

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      Yup. Disney doesn’t stand for anything. They just pander to wherever they think the money is.

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      Really hope Jesus makes his comeback via an appearance on RuPaul. The bible does say it will be unexpected.

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        The stories in the bible happened long ago. There arent any prophecies reaching into our age.

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          (Actual inquiry, I don’t know): Really? There is no rupture or some sort of apocalyse in the new testament?

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            Nah, the thing that Christians claim is the antichrist was the description of Nero.

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              As someone that doesn’t belive in the bible, the whole antichrist being nero thing doesn’t add up. Nero reigned from 54 AD to 68 AD while the book of revelation, the one with the antichrist prophecies and that was published in 95 AD. I’ve heard the explanation that it was code, but why would they have to have code for someone that died 40 years before they wrote the code?

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                The word antichrist isnt meantioned in the bible, only John does mention it.

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      Rainbow capitalism, I’ve looked into LGBTq+ forums, subs it hurts the community and movements more than it helps them

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        See, I actually agree with a lot of people who say they hate “Woke Things”

        Because 7 out of 10 times, they’re just mad at Rainbow Capitalism trying and failing to pander to “t3h gays”, but for some reason believe that “t3h gays” asked for it, when in reality we did not… the other 3 times nothing’s wrong and “Woke” is just code for “There was a black guy who did something outside of be comic relief, but if I said that aloud people would call me racist… Which I am”

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    This is the first openly Christian character to feature in a Disney film since 2007’s Bridge to Terabithia.

    So it’s not really the first then, is it?

    An exclusive poll for Newsweek conducted by Redfield and Wilton Strategies in July found that 34 percent of viewers disapproved of Disney’s attempt to add more LGBTQ+ topics to its content.

    This I never understand. If Disney is a for profit company, why would they not listen to their majority? Aren’t they leaving money on the table like this? “Well, because of Trump.” Yeah but how does that matter, specifically? (The article does not go in to detail about that) Is Trump going to compensate them for it??

    This article isn’t very well written. Many such cases, sadly.

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      The majority doesn’t approve of more LGBT characters either, it’s just Newsweek being intentionally misleading.

      In summary, 36 percent disapproved in some form, 34 percent approved, while 31 percent neither approved nor disapproved, or didn’t know how they felt.

      I’d venture the majority of people prefer a good story. When you shoehorn any elements into a story it distracts the audience. The Star Trek Beyond Lt Sulu scene is a good example it did not provide any character or story development. Many of the star wars shows have similar elements which hurt an all ready damaged story.

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      Note that states 34 percent disagree, but didn’t state how many didn’t care one way or the other, or rate the relative likelihood of spending money or refusing to based on the stance.

      The snowflake conservatives may be more likely to get offended and boycott. It may be that 50 percent didn’t care either way, so the trade off becomes 34 versus 16 percent.

      Of course they may also be concerned about their place in a potential authoritarian state and aligning themselves is a way to avoid being a target. If after all of the doom and gloom turn out to be wrong and progressives come back in a few years, then they just have to have their logo be rainbow colored for a bit and have a few progressive characters and all will be forgiven.

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      Is Disney publicly traded? Because you’re not taking into account stock trading in the insane-o market where speculation on possible public opinion can devalue a product by 100% for 2 days. They could be losing possible trade money if that 34% disapproval caused stockholders to short before other people sold and the prices go into freefall.

      It all makes sense.

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      Is Trump going to compensate them for it??

      I mean, considering his pettiness, probably. Either with carrot or stick, he wants to be heard and wants people to bend over backwards to gain his approval. In exchange, he might do a tax cut or two for those who manage to please him, while he’ll try to crush those who oppose him.

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      Let’s be real no threat is needed. If this made them win craploads of money they would be plastering Disney world with transexual parades every second of the day

      The fact that they are not doing it says a lot

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    It’ll be interesting to see a character following the teachings of Jesus Christ, like

    • Luke 16:13 “You cannot serve both God and money.”
    • Mark 10:21 “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor”
    • Matthew 5:39 “If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.”
    • Matthew 5:44 “love your enemies”

    So there’s no chance the character will be a capitalist, troop-supporting, neo-Nazi. Right?

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      One of my personal favorites:

      • Luke 12:46-48:

      46 the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know, and will cut him in pieces, and assign him a place with the unbelievers. 47 And that slave who knew his master’s will and did not get ready or act in accord with his will, will receive many lashes, 48 but the one who did not know it, and committed deeds worthy of [d]a flogging, will receive but few. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more.

      Jesus sure loved his slaves, huh? Gives you guidelines on how to beat them. Told people to “love your enemies,” but clearly people you own don’t deserve that courtesy. He hung out with prostitutes, but was never able to disavow the practice of owning other humans as property? Kind of unacceptable imo.

      The canonical Bible (the supposed ordained word of god) also include’s Paul’s further interpretation of Jesus’ teachings on slaves in…

      • Ephesians 6:5–8:

      5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.

      Oof.

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        Jesus sure loved his slaves, huh? Gives you guidelines on how to beat them.

        That passage you quoted is not giving guidelines on how to treat slaves, it is a parable using slaves as an example. Not saying the Bible is totally anti slavery, the second passage being pretty disgusting.

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      I dont see how this is news there are millions of christians its not insane for one to show up in a disney movie, the trans argument is usually they are like .001% of the population but get more representation than the rest, I think its all stupid either way and the ppl making shit should be allowed to cast whatever fits their vision and not trends

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    a shift in conservative culture

    independent poll that shows 34% being against a trans character

    conservative terrorists are the greatest threat domestically

    I guess Nazis saying “I’ll fucking kill you and your kids you woke traitor” and then Americans being afraid to participate in democracy does qualify as a shift towards conservativism.

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    I am curious as to which flavor of Christianity they are portraying 🤔

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    Does this Christian character get made fun of all the time for being out of touch with reality? Is this why Kathleen is out, too much jesus? lol, probably not.

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      Christians rarely get made fun of media, evangelicals will throw a fit. To give an example supernatural show had to shoehorn “God” as the original creator to non Christian gods and religions, the writers were afraid of the snowflake christians

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    I feel like these corps did a calculation and figured out everyone has an excuse to not boycott companies like Disney except right wingers who have become exceptionally good at the boycott.

    In my experience those people will typically boycott brands as a group meanwhile my friends find every excuse in the book to support the major corps hurting them. Even aoc went to Florida during covid. And people wonder why they win.

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      The worst part is Conservatives actually ARE NOT good at boycotts

      Just look at how badly the Bud Light boycott failed, and the reason why was because drinkers boycotted Bud Light and then started drinking… Other beers made by literally the same company.

      And of course there were the people who bought Jerseys just to turn around and burn them in order to protest the NFL.

      Then again I broke my own rules and ate at a Chic-Fil-A for the first time in years, because I was depressed and the thing in my head that drops sadness hormones told me it’d shut up if I got waffle fries dipped in ranch, so… You kinda still have a point

      To be fair it was my first Chic-Fil-A meal in like 9 years, and on the Black Out Day I did shop yes, but I did so at a Locally Owned Chain that is owned by a Gay Guy who donates to Food Banks… Avoiding ALL gas stations despite having a quarter tank left…

      But still… we all need to practice self-awareness

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          They continue to throw money at JK Rowling

          YMMV, but in my ‘woke’ crowd, nobody’s buying that merch anymore. The only people I know still doing harry potter themed crap all voted rightwing.

          The last thing I saw come through was the game. A few of the left-leaning gamers bought it but way less than baulders and starfield.

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            This, in my circle the only Harry Potter merch I see people rocking is either at least a decade old or was bought at a convention at a booth selling fanmade merch.

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            Hogwarts legacy was a major success. Almost a million players the first day of launch and that’s only on steam.

            Even now, that 2 years old game has more people playing it than Avowed which just launched relatively recently LMAO 🤣. Again, that’s only on steam.

            Iw we added PSN and Nintendo, it would totally crush it

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              It certainly didn’t launch to crickets. But I could have had millions more players s***** ass worldviews to herself

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              To be fair JK had nothing to do with that, that was all Avalanche Studios… and someone actually crunched the numbers and literally JK gets more in a single day of Universal Studios ticket sales than she did from lifetime sales of that game.

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        This leftist has boycotted everything Sony since they bricked my PC with their rootkit in the early 2000s (and I really go out of my way to make sure nothing Sony related comes in my house, not their music, movies, games, electronics, nor their camera lenses) I only slipped up once in the past 20 or so years, when I purchased a second hand Sony Walkman mp3 player. Thing broke within 3 months of use, it’s now a constant reminder that I really need to keep boycotting Sony.

        I’ve started boycotting Amazon (including but not limited to Kindle, Audible, Prime and Twitch) and Disney since this year.

        But I’m only one person.

        I have shown myself to be capable of long term boycotts and I don’t intend to let up. I’ve added Amazon’s websites to my Pihole’s blacklist.

        But I also don’t pirate their stuff. As far as I’m concerned their TV shows and movies and such don’t exist on this planet.

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          When They fucked me over on my PS3 linux install, I had a Sony TV, A Sony receiver, 2 Playstations and a ton of games.

          They’re all long gone now.

          Never again

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        Leftists are already trying to fuck megacorps over, why would they try and placate them?