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    20 hours ago

    The problem is, it is very hard to win elections without money. So a party that cuts out billionaire spending is less likely to win while also splitting the dem vote.

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      13 hours ago

      The Democrats wanted to tax the rich and they still got way more donations than Trump, but all of that pales in comparison to buying out Twitter.

      You don’t have to be poor to see that Republicans are a threat to us all.

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      18 hours ago

      Democrats outraised trump and still lost.

      You need to not tell your voters to fuck off if you can imagine that.

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        17 hours ago

        The DNC didn’t have foreign bot farms and billionaires on their side.

        Elon literally bought votes but you don’t count that when you say “outraised Trump”.

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          The DNC didn’t have foreign bot farms and billionaires on their side.

          I know! Maybe if they abandon everyone that you don’t care about and focus only on the bot farms and billionaires that you do care about, they’ll win!

          Democrats can’t keep moving to the right like you want them to. They hit a wall. They peeled off none of the republican votes you envy. But they got to throw people you hate under the bus, so it’s good for you.

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            10 hours ago

            They’ve literally won the majority of elections since the 90s by appealing to moderates. They lost in 2024 because Russia had a war at stake and billionaires didn’t want to get taxed. Add in inflation from the pandemic and you have a tough campaign to win.

            The argument that democrats can’t win without the left is not based on reality.

            Dems tried to appeal to leftist and they screeched “genicide Joe” until Trump won.

            Meanwhile republicans won because voters to the right of leftist know the importance of not shitting on the candidate they want to win.

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      18 hours ago

      Splitting the dem vote implies that Democrats are entitled to all votes, not Republican. They have never done anything to earn mine. And after lurching far to the right, like they did this last election, I can’t see how anyone thinks that they have earned their vote.

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            17 hours ago

            Dems have won the majority of elections since the 90s. Biden/Harris lost because of inflation.

            Republicans lost by waaay more in 2020. If they followed your mentality they would’ve lost in 2024. Instead they doubled down and won.

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              16 hours ago

              Democrats did what you wanted in 2016 and 2024 and lost. But at least you didn’t have to move to the left.

              You prefer trump to moving to the left.

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                10 hours ago

                Leftists aren’t winning elections.

                Dems tried to cater to leftists in 2016 and 2024 and lost as a result.

                The majority of Americans don’t want leftist politicians as we can see with election results.

                Leftists are forcing Dems to the right by giving the elections to Trump

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              9 hours ago

              In case you didn’t know leftists are not Democrats, Democrats are closer in policy to Republicans than leftists are Democrats. Your party hosted more cops, zionists, and Republicans onto their convention stage than they did progressives. They cuddled up with right wing war criminals, and tried to out Republican Republicans. Your party did this.

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                Left and right is a spectrum of ideology.

                In the US that spectrum doesn’t exist to the left of democrats. It ends at democrats.

                Those cops, zionists and republicans are also a part of our democracy and they have a vote. Leftists consistently lose elections for not considering this.

                Democrats tried to be less moderate in 2016 and 2024 and lost because of it. Which is expected because leftists can’t win elections.