• UsernameHere@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    Splitting the only opposition to the Republican Party during a coup is a guaranteed benefit to the GOP.

    That’s what you are arguing for.

    You want me to apologize for pointing out the cause and effect of what you’re asking for?

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      9 hours ago

      You say splitting is a guaranteed benefit to the GOP, but I’d say that keeping the resistance neutered by being stuck behind “leadership” that’s ineffectual at best, or a traitorous quisling at worst, benefits the GOP even more.

      Anyway, I’m not arguing for splitting the opposition. I’m arguing for supplanting it so thoroughly that the old guard (Schumer, Pelosi, et al.) finds it untenable to continue.

      If that fails, it fails, and we crawl back and support the Democratic candidate as a last-ditch effort at harm reduction, just like before. But we’ve got to try, because otherwise Schumer is going to “collaborate” us straight into the gas chambers.

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        9 hours ago

        The problem with that approach is you do all the work for the GOP propaganda machine every time you argue against a democratic candidate.

        So by the time your revolution fails, your campaign gets weaponized by the GOP. Everything negative you had to say about the democrat candidate is now being said by the GOP. And it’s super effective at convincing some democratic voters to stay home because it’s the same talking points used by their own party.

        Instead of trying to discourage voters from choosing democrats, leftists should just say why voters should chose the leftist and accept the results when voters choose the moderate option.

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          8 hours ago

          So by the time your revolution fails, your campaign gets weaponized by the GOP. Everything negative you had to say about the democrat candidate is now being said by the GOP. And it’s super effective at convincing some democratic voters to stay home because it’s the same talking points used by their own party.

          So, let me get this straight: leftists say “don’t vote for Schumer; he’s a fascist collaborator!” And then the fascists say “yeah, don’t vote for Schumer, he’s a fascist collaborator!” And then, according to you, that’s supposed to make Democrats stay home instead of voting for the candidate primarying Schumer from the left?

          If you really think Democrats hate leftists so much that they’d refuse to vote for one even when the alternative is somebody both sides agree is fascist, then they’re basically lost to the enemy already and that’s just even more reason to break from them.

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          9 hours ago

          accept the results

          I won’t, and I won’t accept the results of voters choose gop candidates.