• Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    9 months ago

    I still think the greatest revenge is turning them in to good communists, as that would require utterly destroying the person they were and reforming them as something else.

    • mar_k [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      9 months ago

      Yeah you can hate oppressors while still not seeing any human being as inherently evil. I think we’re all products of our material conditions, upbringing, education, mental health conditions, etc. People don’t just, naturally harm and exploit others because that’s who they fundamentally are. I mean, I guess some people probably have imbalances in their brain that effectively make them psychopaths, but I’m also hoping that’s eventually better understood and cured under communism

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        9 months ago

        I think there’s always going to be assholes, but I think we can build a society where it’s real hard for assholes to hurt anyone. I think alot about how women had it better in the GDR because they weren’t financially dependent on men for anything and if their partner was a shit they could just leave without being financially ruined. Like that’s a change in material circumstances that makes it so abusers have a harder time abusers and victims have an easier time getting out. It’s real concrete. i think about it a lot.

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        9 months ago

        it has nothing to do with being “inherently evil” but they made choices that hurt people I care about and I’d like to see them suffer or die for that

        I don’t understand this sentiment that justice should always be rehabilitative. why should it be? are you angry or aren’t you

        it’s not a communist attitude to plan to grimace your way through an unpleasantly bloody revolution until you can reimpose your lofty ideas of justice on that annoying mob of rabble outside. the party’s role during a revolution is to give a voice and direction to popular violence, and afterwards it’s to give the violence the imprimatur of legality. we shoot class enemies. because after all the party represents the proletariat, and a socialist revolution presupposes extreme antagonisms between the proletariat and its exploiters. ppl want demons like musk dead for good reasons, and it doesn’t really matter if that makes you squeamish

        • LanyrdSkynrd [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          Some will need to die during a revolution, but I’m not supporting revolution for vengeance, I want change. It’s not that it makes me squeamish, or that I’m not angry enough, it’s that killing only for retribution is wrong in my opinion.