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Evil motherfucker
Its just going to keep on happening because Democrats are too timid to do anything about the root cause.
Anyone helping with the plan to move these migrants around should be charged with human trafficking. From the bus drivers to the pilots to the planners and all the way up the Republican food chain. Make it very dangerous on a person level for anyone to help these Republicans. But they aren’t going to because Democrats are too timid to ever go after these Republican scumbags. As such, Republicans will continue to pull these stunts, and it is only going to get worse as we get closer and closer to the upcoming elections.
Democrats are terrified of setting precedents.
the first time this happened should’ve been human trafficking hard. but because they didn’t it is almost consenting to it.
Oh absolutely. Set an example and put the hammer down on those who helped them. Time after time after time Republicans know that Democrats are just a bunch of pussies and as such, they have no problems bullying them around. It is infuriating to watch this happen - and this has been the case for decades before this migrant circus ever happened.
Republicans provoke violence and then clutch their pearls when it’s suggested that people redirect that violence back at them.
They are like spoiled kids who are always breaking the rules and no one is willing to punish them. Democrats never go after them. They rarely get sued and charges are almost never filed. Just a few months ago there was some right wing nut who was calling out for harm to the President. Were they brought up on charges? No, of course not. And thus some other nut did something similar a few weeks later and the pattern continues.
If this was part of a program to actually help people that would be great. But one bus full of people is a publicity stunt for the truly ignorant masses. I have said this before and I’ll say it again, the conservative right are Republicans in name only, none of the values except the convenient ones.
Who represents the “real” conservatives/Republicans? It would seem any state with Republican control is aiming for similar anti-immigration policies. If everyone is doing it, then it becomes the standard. If nobody from the party can speak out against it, it becomes the standard. When the conservative majority Supreme Court instills conservative policy despite public opposition, it becomes the standard.
How would shipping immigrants across state borders unannounced ever be a way to help people? And it has been many buses, are we forgetting the last few years of Florida sending people to progressive states? It might be publicity stunts, but hundreds of people getting shipped around the country based on false information and left sitting out to dry only says “conservatives think immigrants are less than human and can be shipped around like cattle”
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, citing overcrowding in Texas immigration facilities, started a migrant busing program last year after President Biden lifted Title 42 — a controversial Trump-era policy that allowed for the rapid expulsion of asylum seekers throughout the COVID-19 pandemic.
Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
We will treat them as fellow human beings unlike Texas, which is run by sociopaths.
California! Super cewl to the homeless!
Califor neyah neyah. Super cewl to the homelesss
Wonder how many bus loads its going to take before dems get their heads out of their asses, and start protecting the border.
I wonder how long it’ll take both sides to figure out that this issue has been going on for decades,? The immigration system is so broken it’d blow most peoples minds. nobody’s facing the real fact. We’re creating our own problem. Part of the problem is the immigration system is broken , it should be streamlined to make it easier to figure who shouldn’t should be here.
The other part of the problem is we allow weaponry to go to Central and South America which arms the cartels. They use the weapons to fight wars amongst themselves and threaten the populace. The cartels make the drugs, which are sent to the US which we buy which creates a bigger problem. So now the people in those countries flee here. Then we refuse to acknowledge on why they’re even fleeing to begin with.
Really should be stream lined. Problem is we can only reasonably take a tenth or less of who wants to immigrate, and the illegals just claim asylum when they get caught
What circumstances do people have to flee to be granted asylum here? Or do you think there should be no asylum, regardless?
Side note, do you remember the quote on the Statue of Liberty?
Targeted and legitimate threats against their life. Right now, there are 1.6 million pending asylum claims, it’s being heavily abused.
And while it’s a nice poem, it does not work in real life when everyone north of the Darian Gap wants in.
Edit: Source on the 1.6 million claim. https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/26/us/asylum-backlog-highest-record/index.html#:~:text=US immigration courts have seen an over seven-fold,backlog grew to over 750%2C000%2C per the clearinghouse.
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Targeted and legitimate threats against their life.
So you know for a fact that none of these people have ever been targeted or threatened by gang members? Or, is having a gangster wave a gun at your toddler not targeted enough? Since it has to be targeted, I imagine you don’t think fleeing an advancing military force, like many Ukrainians have had to, is enough? It might be worth thinking about that Einstein was a refugee in this country. He wasn’t treated any differently than any other German Jew by the Nazis, so bear that in mind with your “targeted” requirement.
Right now, there are 1.6 million pending asylum claims, it’s being heavily abused.
I at least found a similar source for your claims: https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/26/us/asylum-backlog-highest-record/index.html
Brazil alone has nearly 230 million people. The total population of Central and South American countries is about 600 million people. That means less than 0.3% are seeking asylum. This seems reasonable to me. Given what you know about the countries these people are coming from, what is the percentage you would expect to be fleeing violence?
I’m gonna need a source for that claim of abuse. What are you basing that on?
As to the poem, it’s not just a poem. It espouses the principles America was founded on. If you don’t like it, have you considered leaving?
1.6 million of them? If 1.6 million people are being individually targeted, the problem won’t be solved with asylum.
The point isn’t to stop the gangs and violence, it’s to take in the people fleeing that violence so that they do not get killed because of that violence. These are people with skills and a desire to make a better life for themselves, they have a place here, and there are not that many of them no matter how big you want to that “1.6 million” figure sound by skipping the context of the total numbers.
You’re clearly not interested in actually thinking about this, or you’d be engaging more. Answer some of my questions with facts and figures, and we can continue.
Wonder how many bus loads it’s going to take before republicans get their heads out of their address and stop engaging in human trafficking.
I still don’t get how you guys came up with human trafficking. It’s paying for a bus ticket, or rather several bus tickets.
If you coerce someone to get on a bus that you paid for by lying about where it’s going, that is a crime. “We guys” did not come up with it, it is what the law says.I decided to do some digging on this, and I actually agree that it’d be hard to argue the third leg of the requirements which is “Purpose”: https://news.northeastern.edu/2022/09/19/human-trafficking-laws/
The Purpose for this would materially benefit Florida and DeSantis specifically, but it wouldn’t fall under “Sex Trafficking” or “Labour Trafficking”.
It’s good to know that you think lying to a bunch of desperate people seeking refuge and dumping them in another place is fine, though. You must be a real joy to be around, with the kind of behaviour you endorse.
They’re told where its going, where did you hear otherwise?
