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Is Stallman still involved in GNU? I thought he got kicked out. Was thinking of becoming a guix guy but maybe not.
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What the fuck
Will men be pressured to undergo “age conversion therapy” intended to brainwash them to feel attracted mainly to women of their own age?
There’s so many quotes worse than this one in there. I’ve never seen anyone more obsessed with debatebroing about how it’s ackshually just ephebo-stealing-a-kiss
- https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
- https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.html
Was thinking of becoming a guix guy but maybe not.
Stallman is not actively involved (if at all, he does not program anymore) in GNU or any of its software projects. GNU Guix was started mostly in part by Ludovic Courtès and is an active community-maintained project with a strict code of conduct. I have never heard anyone mention Stallman in their communications or had any hint of a “Stallman club.” (FYI I am a contributor to Guix).
Stallman has been in the far backseat for quite a long time now. His personal (but public) blog reflects none of the views of the FSF nor the GNU Project. By supporting the FSF or the GNU Project you are not supporting Richard Stallman, he is not the one at the helm. By reading his essays on Free software (hosted on gnu dot org) you are not somehow giving his other ideas any credibility as his personal blog is not referenced anywhere. Nor do in any of his essays (gnu dot org) does Stallman advertise his other beliefs (not even the cool ones like calling all cops “thugs”)
There are parts of Devault’s essay that I could criticize (not in defending Stallman but the framing of some events), but that simply does not matter anymore. Please do not think that all GNU project members (or the FSF for that matter) are a monolith.
Okay good reply thank you. I was getting really excited about guix after reading a post about their full source bootstrap project. The hacker news crowd gives the impression that everybody loves Stallman but good to hear this is a minority among people that actually do things.
did people not know this? I would be shocked if the dude wasn’t a pedo
There’s no way this dude doesn’t have skeletons in his closet. There is no other reason to so fervently defend something so terrible.
He was reinstated a few months after the shitstorm died down
Well shit. I thought guix was really cool for all the work they’ve been doing with bootstrapping an entire operating system from source but I don’t want to be involved in that shit. This aspect of nerd culture should have died out during the ShitRedditSays era.
Guix fully supports RMS stepping away from key leadership roles in the FSF and has a strict code of conduct (the only political beliefs that project maintainers are allowed to share/claim publicly is for the proliferation of Free software). Don’t worry, the Stallman cult is a very vocal minority.
I partly believe that he was reinstated because of the lack of focus in the advocacy for his exit. Don’t get me wrong I adamantly supported rms stepping back from the FSF’s board but the problem with the whole campaign is that it tried too hard to dig up everything that it could on rms.
One of the accusations against Stallman was transphobia based on a faulty line of reasoning (Stallman doesn’t use they/them pronouns when referring to people regardless of gender in speech and writing but instead neopronouns pers/person. Nothing was implied that Stallman wouldn’t use someone’s preferred pronouns if asked/informed of it, not all non-binary folx use they/them). I only bring this up because it actually hurt the message in the long run when it’s being paired with the very real complaints against Stallman’s behavior.
Also if you’re trying to relate to people in the libre software community, maybe try not to link to every proprietary social media site known for reactionary beliefs and echo chambers in the open letter (X dot com, Reddit, Facebook, LinkedIn). You lose all your credibility with that space (whom you actually need for the campaign to succeed) if you do that.
It’s too late now, but that’s my commentary on the campaign supporting Stallman’s resignation.
