I’ve just found this article about Futurama on The Independent, a UK newspaper. It comments on the changes in Futurama reflecting the changes in society in general.

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    The satirical show has to change with the times. It’s true. Some of the jokes do get dated. It’s hard to write ageless satire. Satire only exists inside of a context. Which is time-bound.

    I’m hopeful they’re going to find a nice stride this season. The first episode seemed like a rehash of previous ideas. I’m looking forward to some deep satire and thinking coming forward

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      I’m hoping it gets better. The last time they got canceled and came back they made a few jokes about it then moved on. This time it seemed to be a whole episode focused on the joke.

      Are they still the most educated writing staff on TV? IIRC the original writing staff had a bunch of PhD peeps.

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        I noticed the same thing! It seems like Hulu was really keen on making the first episode all about Hulu, which was annoying and a big red flag for me. Last time I remember they made a “we’re back on a new channel” joke it was a bit more subtle and all of 15 seconds long. This new episode just felt like one long eternalized ad.

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          To be fair the episode was centered around streaming so it makes sense to have some Hulu jokes. Although that might just be an excuse to include more Hulu jokes

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          There were several Hulu jokes in the Animaniacs reboot too. I wasn’t too put off by them. I guess its trendy these days. Netflix OC Black Mirror is full of meta.

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      So I understand what you are saying, but as somebody who has watched way too much Futurama then he would ever care to admit, I feel the need to make an important distinction about it that I think might help frame the objective of the article better.

      Futurama is generally not a pop-culture/current events show. Any references they make to pop-culture are generally dated (intentionally)/or semi-timeless. Some episodes are the exception, like Proposition Infinity and Eye-Phone (whatever the ep is called), but these are not the norm and definitely don’t happen with as much frequency as you’d see in shows like The Simpsons or South Park. It’s part of what makes Futurama so damn good. What I find the show reflects over time is values changing. The way they stop making being gay a joke over time. The way they stop using masculinity as a joke (unless there’s a particular intent with it/commentary), things like that. The relationships between characters evolve and morph and show how society has changed. The things that bother them, even.

      I’m on a plane about to take off so I need to stop there. But I think if you decouple the idea that Futurama is a current events/current pop culture show, which if you look at all of the episodes you will see is rarely the case, I think it will make the article seem less lazy and more thoughtful than it originally seemed.

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    Everytime I see headlines about documenting periods with TV productions the Simpson kick in.

    A single blue collar income capable of buying a house, two cars and food for a family of 6.

    Did not realize it was a fantasy show.

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      Tbf, blue collar jobs and nuke plants can pay very well. I knew a tradesman who worked at a plant near me that was paid very well to essentially just always be on call on site in case something in his area of expertise needed fixing, which really does remind me of Homer sleeping on the job because most of the time nuke plants just run themselves.

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      Homer has a union job — he was literally head of the union — and Marge got to keep all that Pretzel Wagon money after the Investorettes hired the Yakuza to take out her mafia protectors.

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    Zeitgeist / Hegel.

    He argued that art reflects the culture of the time in which it was created.

    Suspect this is especially true for larger productions, where you have numerous people influencing the production, writers, producers, actors, the studio, director, etc.

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      Star Trek is the same way. Look at the newer series and how many of them reflect contemporary issues.

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          “I’m conservative but I will fight tooth and nail for his freedom of speech” is definitely not how american conservatives today are.

          That’s the same today.

          They say ‘I’m conservative BUT I respect free speech.’

          Not ‘I’m conservative SO I respect free speech.’

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          It still works as a contrast to authoritarian regimes like Russia clamping down on dissent, and would require minimal rework if any.

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    Aha! Thank you for reminding me that the new season had started. I just downloaded the first ep (fuck hulu).

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    The first episode was very meh. No moments where I actually really laughed. Not a great start to the reboot.

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        The early seasons were full of jokes that were “of their time”. I don’t think this is inherently bad. The whole schtick of the show has been to satirize modern life by presenting a wackier futuristic cartoon version of it.

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      It wasn’t strong, but I felt like it was to rebase the whole thing. Because it retcons part of the previous end and sort of set expectations for going forward. Like drawing a line in the sand. This is Futurama and this is Hulu’s Futurama

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    So far only one joke made me laugh in every episode. Hopefully it will get better. We need some crazy bender episode. 😇