• Trudge [Comrade]@lemmygrad.ml
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    10 months ago

    I thought that the opposition would be because he rejects essentialism as a scientist. It wasn’t Lenin’s special genetic formula that made him great and that a person is not their DNA.

    Instead, the scientist is arguing on essentialist grounds as if Lenin’s genes supposedly committed crimes. He needs to be reeducated twice. First in class relations, but second in a normal school all over again.

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      10 months ago

      Seriously. Imagine being a (purported) genetic scientist and believing that a clone would have the same opinions as the long-dead source of the DNA.

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    10 months ago

    Lib infestation is unfortunately quite prominent among intelligentsia - scientists, IT people, etc

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    10 months ago

    I’d feel sorry for any cloned human. Don’t they age too fast for some reason? Maybe its the telomere decay? Either way it’s pretty unethical to clone humans. It would suck to have impossible expectations thrust upon you too if you are the clone of someone history made great.

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      10 months ago

      Nothing is known about cloned humans because it’s never been done before. Every cloned animal has had about the same lifespan as any other animal. My old boss had a cloned cat that was normal.

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        10 months ago

        Interesting. There are no confirmed cloned humans or human-animal chimeras. Some people claimed to clone humans but those turned out to be hoaxes.

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      they have been portreyed as aging too fast sometimes but its usually because they speed up their aging so the clone can be fully grown in a year or two not 18, and therefore they die at 7 or 8 not 70 or 80 or whatever, its not a feature of a being a clone its like that because they’re making clone armies or whatever in a movie. A clone isn’t some ‘special’ category of life. Its just a self replicating genetic sequence that makes a person, like you or me, its just that it so happens to be the same blueprint as was used before. but its not like the cells knows any of that, for all intents and purposes a clone of you is literally no different than you are, at the start anyway, chaotic systems and all that

      so in this context of cloning lenin:

      A clone of lenin would not actually become lenin, that is not how human beings work. He’d probably have health issues with strokes or whatever like lenin did, because biology/ genetics, but its not like he would be born based. And he wouldn’t age any faster than normal lenin

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      10 months ago

      Humanity has never cloned a human.

      Also the main problem is that a clone is not a copy of a their donor. That’s why cloned animals have a radically different personality then their donor, as they are essentially a different being.

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      There were some claims thrown around when Dolly died relatively young of cancer, but experiments since then show no abnormalities that would be associated with advanced age.

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    Eh, if the weirdos wanna waste time worrying about clones or whatever, let 'em. One less dipshit to worry about, cuz he’ll be preoccupied with his Lenin clone fears or whatever.