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    8 days ago

    Have you heard it’s not always the case? Single moms who got dumped after pregnancy, inaccessibility of abortions or protections, dumb kids got caught in the heat of moment and skip protections etc? Do you think every birth is planned by the couple?

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            6 days ago

            I didn’t say there is not proper healthcare. I said couples might not be able to access it. Either it’s banned or it’s expensive. Also it’s not about abortion though. Couples might have just wanted to have sex but might have kept the baby, doesn’t matter. It’s not always “let’s have a baby”.

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              6 days ago

              Abortion is part of proper healthcare. As is affordability. If that’s not there, then that’s a lack of proper healthcare

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                4 days ago

                I don’t think the main point of this discussion is how to define “proper healthcare”. Humans do not always think “let’s have a baby and grow our family”. No, they mostly just have sex and keep the baby in case of pregnancy, sometimes involuntarily.

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                  4 days ago

                  Having the tools to abort pregnancy, prevent it, and know what you’re doing is part of good healthcare. If this really is a major problem somewhere, then that place does not have proper healthcare available.

                  There are plenty of countries where this is already the case, most of them in Europe.

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                    4 days ago

                    Yes, we can continue to discuss about accessibility of abortion tools but that is not my point. Couples or individuals may still decide to keep the baby after pregnancy happened, even though they did not plan for it or they don’t have enough money to raise a kid. They just have sex and baby comes a surprise. This happens a lot more than you could imagine.