Harris and the Biden administration have displayed unconditional support for Israel and its far right leaders.

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    People standing against genocide crushed in local elections.

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      Yes and I specifically said that local and national elections are not analogous. You cannot take something that would work in a local election and expected to work exactly the same at a national election. It’s a fallacy. And you are arguing a straw man.

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        It’s not always the case, but it was during this election season. This season was dominated with single-issue voters, and all of those issues were national not local.

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          Do you have any proof of that claim? I mean other than you claiming it. Because I can guarantee you where I live almost no one gave a s*** about it. Which I’m not happy about it. But it’s come to be expected with the amount of lead poisoning this state has. It played wildly different from state to state and had no clear discernible National influence. The biggest thing that seemed to motivate the outcome of this. Was racism and apathy.

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              They’re different state to state. It’s not universally applicable that is the point that is what I’m getting at. Stuff that was important for Palestinian populations in Dearborn michigan. Is not going to be remotely the same as what is important to the yokels in Joplin missouri. There is no Universal appeal or play to it unfortunately. Apparently a lot of people really don’t have a problem with it. And didn’t really care about it one way or the others. It wasn’t a universal thing that impacted all populations equally. Missouri for instance did the most Missouri thing possible. And voted to legalize abortion again. While electing the president that will ban it nationally. It had nothing to do with Palestine or anything going on over there at all. Missourians do this all the time. They voted to have funding controls on political campaigns to reduce the impact of dark money. And the very next election repealed it.

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                You seem to misunderstand my point. I said that it was “dominated with single-issue voters”, not that single-issue for everyone was Palestine.

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                  In that case that’s fair. But those single issues unfortunately we’re not Universal and varied region region. Not being applicable to extrapolate out to a national election.

                  Had she called out Israel’s actions and cut them off. It would have cost her plenty of votes elsewhere. It’s not some Universal net positive and it’s wrong to represent it that way. Which is all I was getting at initially.

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                    It’s definitely not universal net positive, but the votes she would have lost from Jews wouldn’t matter so much as they are primarily based in non-swing states like California and New York. And she deliberately shit on Arabs during the whole campaign and the shitshow that was DNC. One can endlessly debate if those Arab voters made a right decision with not voting for her and instead casting votes for Jill Stein in protest. But considering what their only ask as arms embargo to comply with US own foreign aid policy which Biden administration is circumventing at the moment, it was easy pickings and Biden strategists she hired fucked her over.