The media is trying to paint a picture of him as a right winger so they can better control the narrative. Read his actual social media posts and you can see that it’s much more nuanced than that.
The media is also trying to paint a picture of him as a left winger. But his overall “wing” does not matter when we support him for his message
He didn’t kill the CEO of Planned Parenthood or the dean of a liberal college. He killed the CEO of one of the most evil companies in an evil industry - something we can all get behind
Right. It’s just yet another example of progressive ideas being popular with everybody, so long as it’s pitched in a vacuum without any labels attached. Everybody wants better healthcare. Everybody wants cheaper groceries. Everybody wants privacy in their bedrooms. Everybody wants money out of politics. But most people aren’t paying enough attention to realize that they’re actually voting against these things when they vote for conservatives, no matter what those conservatives pretend to stand for.
I agree, but so many leftists on lemmy have told me they don’t want democrats working with Liz Cheney regardless of her message that we must stop Trump from getting re-elected.
I wish people would focus less on ideologies and more on solidarity for a cause.
It’s easy to point out the obvious fact that Trump is a fascist who should never have been trusted to run the family real estate company, much less the government of the richest and most powerful country in the history of humanity.
It’s especially easy when you’ve already been kicked out of the fascist party for insufficient but not nonexistent loyalty to Dear Leader.
When there’s political relevance and profits in pointing out the obvious, Liz is there in a flash.
When it comes down to meaningful action, though, Luigi killed the killer and Liz voted exactly like her dad would have, which is “whatever whomever’s in charge of the GOP wants” 95%+ of the time.
Tl;Dr: Liz Cheney never did anything for the working class and the only time she pretended to, it only served to illustrate how out of touch with the reality of regular people the Lesser Evil Party is.
That’s what I’m trying to explain to you: to the DNC leadership and the Cheneys, there is no cause. Only a competition and a paycheck.
Do you seriously believe that Liz Cheney, Joe Manchin, and Nancy Pelosi care any more about the working poor than the likes of Mitch McConnell, Chuck Grassley, and John Roberts?
Because if so, I have oceanfront property in Nebraska to sell you…
They interviewed one of his friends from college who said that “Luigi tends to be on the left economically but not agree with the leftist identity politics”
That’s kind of how humans work. Everyone has all sorts of disparate opinions not aligning directly to party lines. I mostly follow left wing politics except where it comes to guns because for some reason that’s right wing. So many beliefs and opinions cannot be properly expressed by a political spectrum but by god we’ll do it anyway.
It makes me remember that video of the guy putting every different shaped piece into the square. https://youtu.be/Nz8ssH7LiB0
Yeah exactly. I consider myself far left but if I were to speak about certain topics here, I would face lots of criticisms and downvotes… and that’s okay.
The media is trying to paint a picture of him as a right winger so they can better control the narrative. Read his actual social media posts and you can see that it’s much more nuanced than that.
The media is also trying to paint a picture of him as a left winger. But his overall “wing” does not matter when we support him for his message
He didn’t kill the CEO of Planned Parenthood or the dean of a liberal college. He killed the CEO of one of the most evil companies in an evil industry - something we can all get behind
Right. It’s just yet another example of progressive ideas being popular with everybody, so long as it’s pitched in a vacuum without any labels attached. Everybody wants better healthcare. Everybody wants cheaper groceries. Everybody wants privacy in their bedrooms. Everybody wants money out of politics. But most people aren’t paying enough attention to realize that they’re actually voting against these things when they vote for conservatives, no matter what those conservatives pretend to stand for.
Eh, same thing with the democratic party, they at least drop some crumbs but at the end of the day they still answer to the oligarchs
I agree, but so many leftists on lemmy have told me they don’t want democrats working with Liz Cheney regardless of her message that we must stop Trump from getting re-elected.
I wish people would focus less on ideologies and more on solidarity for a cause.
That’s COMPLETELY different.
It’s easy to point out the obvious fact that Trump is a fascist who should never have been trusted to run the family real estate company, much less the government of the richest and most powerful country in the history of humanity.
It’s especially easy when you’ve already been kicked out of the fascist party for insufficient but not nonexistent loyalty to Dear Leader.
When there’s political relevance and profits in pointing out the obvious, Liz is there in a flash.
When it comes down to meaningful action, though, Luigi killed the killer and Liz voted exactly like her dad would have, which is “whatever whomever’s in charge of the GOP wants” 95%+ of the time.
Tl;Dr: Liz Cheney never did anything for the working class and the only time she pretended to, it only served to illustrate how out of touch with the reality of regular people the Lesser Evil Party is.
So much for solidarity for the cause
That’s what I’m trying to explain to you: to the DNC leadership and the Cheneys, there is no cause. Only a competition and a paycheck.
Do you seriously believe that Liz Cheney, Joe Manchin, and Nancy Pelosi care any more about the working poor than the likes of Mitch McConnell, Chuck Grassley, and John Roberts?
Because if so, I have oceanfront property in Nebraska to sell you…
Their cause was to prevent Trump from getting re-elected
If it was, they would have listened to the people they had to represent to win rather than the rich ones they represent to get paid.
Biden said it himself: as long as he gave it a good shot, he wouldn’t feel bad about losing to Trump.
The minute they didn’t have any money and power to gain, THIS was how much disdain the Bidens had for the fascist dictator–elect:
Anything can be misrepresented out of context:
They interviewed one of his friends from college who said that “Luigi tends to be on the left economically but not agree with the leftist identity politics”
That’s kind of how humans work. Everyone has all sorts of disparate opinions not aligning directly to party lines. I mostly follow left wing politics except where it comes to guns because for some reason that’s right wing. So many beliefs and opinions cannot be properly expressed by a political spectrum but by god we’ll do it anyway.
It makes me remember that video of the guy putting every different shaped piece into the square. https://youtu.be/Nz8ssH7LiB0
Yeah exactly. I consider myself far left but if I were to speak about certain topics here, I would face lots of criticisms and downvotes… and that’s okay.
It’s why we should focus on topics and not teams.
To be fair, your idea to sterilize every New York Yankees fan IS a bit on the extreme side…