I hate people who treat them like some toys and fantasize about them. That makes me think they are in some sort of death cult. That they found socially acceptable way to love violence.

I would still get one for safety but it is a tool made for specifically one thing. To pierce the skin and rip through the inner organs of a person.

They can serve a good purpose but they are fundamentally grim tools of pain and suffering. They shouldn’t be celebrated and glorified in their own right, that is sick. They can be used to preserve something precious but at a price to pay.

  • sp3ctr4lEnglish
    1·
    2 hours ago

    Oh sure, violence is awful, traumatizing and cruel.

    But if you think that you must be a child to mistake violence with reality, than I’d say that you are actually the one with the priveleged, childlike view of the world.

    I agree that guns should not be fetishized, that that is a dangerous sign of immaturity, but guns are a useful and prevalent tool.

    You can’t just wish them out of existence.

    Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

    • Karl Marx

    When they kick at your front door

    How you gonna come?

    With your hands on your head

    Or on the trigger of your gun?

    • Paul Simonom

    I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming.

    • Luigi Mangione

    Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

    • John F. Kennedy

    Politcal power grows from the barrel of a gun.

    • Mao Tzetung
    • 𝓔𝓶𝓶𝓲𝓮@lemm.eeOPEnglish
      11·
      2 hours ago

      Yes. This is also nutty and I don’t think you can manage to change my mind. All the violent lemmings are a creepy. You are disturbing.

      Even my country which struggled with communism for years, freed itself from the red oppression not by violence but by peaceful negotiations after mass worker strikes.

      I know you lot. You pretend to want to solve problems but deep inside you just want to kill someone and get away with it. I have no respect for you.

      • sp3ctr4lEnglish
        1·
        2 hours ago

        I don’t even own a gun, but uh ok?

        I’ve worked at non profits to house the homeless, for years. Could have made a lot more money in a corporate job, but I eschewed that in favor of doing actual good in the world.

        I’ve been homeless, been robbed and beaten by people with guns, dodged a drive by shooting by 20 or 30 feet, been held against my will, without charges, by armed agents of the state for simply existing while honeless, been held captive by a madman and beaten for a week straight.

        I have firearms training, because I grew up around guns, but I’ve never owned a gun.

        I have martial arts training, and I’ve only ever used it to defend myself and others; never once have I instigated a random assault, but I’ve broken up a few.

        My country is the most armed country on the planet, and it’s currently undergoing a fascist coup.

        But please, do go on about the revolution your parents had, and the comfy, detached from reality moral structure its allowed you develop.

        Tell the Ukranians defending their country how guns are evil and they should just roll over and accept assimilation.

        Tell the Palestinians to stop resisting and just allow themselves, their people, to be wiped off the face of the earth.

        Meanwhile, leftist demonstrations in my country have been terrorized by openly armed right wing militias and terrorists for years, been black bagged and arrested by armed secret police.

        But I’m sure you’re quite fine telling victims of armed violence that they’re actually the guilty ones for pointing out the basic underlying fact that all politics and laws are only as meaningful as the monopoly on violence that enforces them, and that guns are the most common and direct tool in that trade.

        • 𝓔𝓶𝓶𝓲𝓮@lemm.eeOPEnglish
          1·
          2 hours ago

          Sorry but your experiences are meaningless here. It’s the basic fundamental thing not some comfort. Wherever you are advocating for violence, you will meet me opposing you.

          I will always be there.

            • 𝓔𝓶𝓶𝓲𝓮@lemm.eeOPEnglish
              1·
              1 hour ago

              Just like I do it now. Whenever somebody advocates for some violent idea I will always voice my opposition without hesitation even if that ruins the jolly revolution mood.

              Kill only in your name alone and face the consequences but if you kill in the name of some noble idea then you ruin it and corrupt it. You are no part of whatever good you think you are.

          • sp3ctr4lEnglish
            1·
            1 hour ago

            You and I will never meet.

            EDIT: I gave you my personal experiences because you made a personal claim about me, that I am violent, that I want to kill someone.

            Not because its relevant to the larger idea about guns.

            You made it personal, you became judgemental, and gaslit met.

            Yeah, you and I will never meet, I’ve suffered knowing far too many manipulative, sanctimonious gaslighters in my life.

            Hope all your friends enjoy you victim-blaming them as much as I have.

            • 𝓔𝓶𝓶𝓲𝓮@lemm.eeOPEnglish
              1·
              1 hour ago

              You will meet hundreds like me. Not quite me but just like me. And you will keep meeting them and they will say exactly same thing. They are me and you will meet me in each of them.

              • sp3ctr4lEnglish
                1·
                1 hour ago

                Yep, I’ve certainly met and will continue to meet many priveleged, sanctimonious, manipulative fools.

                And when their peaceful protest gets dispersed and peppered with gunfire by armed thugs with guns, I’ll just stand aside and watch, just like they’d want me to.