Say what you want about Apple and their motivations, we really need them to win this case. You cannot get your privacy (or right to it) back once it’s gone.
That’s separate from what OP is talking about.
The on-device encryption is decent
For data on Apple’s servers (which they push icloud by anemic device storage…)
Apple themselves publish that they give access to user accounts 90% of the time in the US
Apple is all proprietary anyways, so you shouldn’t trust them still, even if they win this court case. I recommend using Librebooted Dell OptiPlex 780’s or Dell E4300 Latitude’s with Trisquel GNU/Linux + Tor Browser with Javascript disabled if your looking for the most privacy in your internet activites. You can do what you wish with this information.
It’s already gone because it’s not disclosed when or why it is moved to servers where the Chinese govt can decrypt it, but I guess it depends on who you’re worried about having your data
No one outside of China has their data stored there, though. Every tech company that complies with China hosts the data in China and usually makes the Chinese version of their software work differently as a result. The Chinese government isn’t able to just see everyone else’s data.
This is true, but considering all the US government problems with China, if Apple does send your data to Chinese servers regardless of where you are, I’d guess governments in the US and Europe would make iPhones forbidden for all their sensitive personnel.
Say what you want about Apple and their motivations, we really need them to win this case. You cannot get your privacy (or right to it) back once it’s gone.
Sometimes i like Apple, sometimes I don’t. This is certainly the former.
They’re certainly less-bad about this stuff than Google, Facebook, etc.
Yeah but they also paid trump a fortune to clamp down on eu regulations
Less-bad lol
It’s irrelevant what fascism collaborators do as their side job. Fuck apple.
https://www.axios.com/2025/01/03/tim-cook-apple-donate-1-million-trump-inauguration
I didn’t say I like Apple or that I trust them or anything. I said we want them to win this lawsuit.
They can win it in a way that will still benefit only them and not you.
Don’t trust the corpos but Apple has a history of resisting stuff like this.
No 👏 they 👏 do 👏 not.
Get Apple’s dick out of your ass.
They literally have a history of moving data to government servers and handing over encryption keys: https://thehackernews.com/2021/05/how-apple-gave-chinese-government.html?m=1
San Bernardino shooter case?
That’s separate from what OP is talking about. The on-device encryption is decent
For data on Apple’s servers (which they push icloud by anemic device storage…) Apple themselves publish that they give access to user accounts 90% of the time in the US
https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/us.html
Apple is all proprietary anyways, so you shouldn’t trust them still, even if they win this court case. I recommend using Librebooted Dell OptiPlex 780’s or Dell E4300 Latitude’s with Trisquel GNU/Linux + Tor Browser with Javascript disabled if your looking for the most privacy in your internet activites. You can do what you wish with this information.
Oh my god the responses are so aggravating
It does not fucking matter what we think of Apple. If they lose this case, we all lose.
This isn’t a discussion about what hardware to buy dude jfc take step back and look around you for 2 seconds
Ignoring the fact they already did this in China? And by the way, you have no way of knowing when your data was uploaded to the Chinese servers
https://wiki.rossmanngroup.com/wiki/ICloud
I’m not sure how this is incompatible with what I said. What your point?
It’s already gone because it’s not disclosed when or why it is moved to servers where the Chinese govt can decrypt it, but I guess it depends on who you’re worried about having your data
No one outside of China has their data stored there, though. Every tech company that complies with China hosts the data in China and usually makes the Chinese version of their software work differently as a result. The Chinese government isn’t able to just see everyone else’s data.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/111754
This is true, but considering all the US government problems with China, if Apple does send your data to Chinese servers regardless of where you are, I’d guess governments in the US and Europe would make iPhones forbidden for all their sensitive personnel.
You know there are some of us who don’t use iCloud so you can stop assuming all of us are in this boat lol
It’s already gone then. There’s nothing I can do about it.