So the fact that this person clearly has researched said subject enough to get a degree in it to know what they’re talking about vs some dude who is quite possibly pulling bullshit out his ass doesn’t allow for said learned person to tell said non-learned person they are an idiot?
Pretty sure they have a problem with using that expertise to call them an idiot instead of offering counterpoints.
A lot of the people on Lemmy seem to think the Internet isn’t a casual space and think engaging with these types of people in those spaces will somehow change their opinions.
It doesn’t give anyone new information, it’s hostile in a way that could turn anyone on the fence against them and make everyone disagreeing dig their feet in more, and claiming expertise on the internet doesn’t mean much because people lie constantly. You can demonstrate through writing that you know what you’re talking about without asking people to take your word for it, you can make references. If you don’t have time for an effortpost you can summarize, link, or quote an argument someone else made while putting it in context.
There are really excellent arguments against all kinds of misconceptions, it is a shame if what ends up spread around are schoolyard level clapbacks instead of those. r/AskHistorians in particular has some really good ones, including about this specific issue.
As a rule of thumb I think anytime you are invoking your expertise, you should also be sharing some of it.
That particular argument isn’t debatable to anyone with any knowledge of history. It isn’t everyone else’s job to educate someone on easily researched topics. The answer is sometimes, no, fuck you, you’re an asshole and a liar.
So the fact that this person clearly has researched said subject enough to get a degree in it to know what they’re talking about vs some dude who is quite possibly pulling bullshit out his ass doesn’t allow for said learned person to tell said non-learned person they are an idiot?
Because sometimes I think it kinda does.
Pretty sure they have a problem with using that expertise to call them an idiot instead of offering counterpoints.
A lot of the people on Lemmy seem to think the Internet isn’t a casual space and think engaging with these types of people in those spaces will somehow change their opinions.
It doesn’t give anyone new information, it’s hostile in a way that could turn anyone on the fence against them and make everyone disagreeing dig their feet in more, and claiming expertise on the internet doesn’t mean much because people lie constantly. You can demonstrate through writing that you know what you’re talking about without asking people to take your word for it, you can make references. If you don’t have time for an effortpost you can summarize, link, or quote an argument someone else made while putting it in context.
There are really excellent arguments against all kinds of misconceptions, it is a shame if what ends up spread around are schoolyard level clapbacks instead of those. r/AskHistorians in particular has some really good ones, including about this specific issue.
As a rule of thumb I think anytime you are invoking your expertise, you should also be sharing some of it.
That particular argument isn’t debatable to anyone with any knowledge of history. It isn’t everyone else’s job to educate someone on easily researched topics. The answer is sometimes, no, fuck you, you’re an asshole and a liar.