• BrikoXOPM
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    1 year ago

    So because France considers their definition to be the same or better, they block it from becoming the definition for the whole bloc where other countries have looser definitions. Make no sense and makes them the bad guy here holding off the progress.

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      1 year ago

      Or they’re saying “come back with a better one”. That doesn’t seem unreasonable or evil, especially if the ultimate outcome IS a better definition of rape.

      Again, I’m no jurist and I haven’t looked into the details of this, but I don’t think weakening the law in some countries is a good outcome even if it strengthens it in others. The French government’s stated concerns seem legitimate to me and I’d like to see those concerns addressed by the Commission before dismissing them as “bad guy behavior”.

      (And let’s be clear here: I’m not French and I have no love for the French government, many members of which are or were accused rapists IIRC)

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        1 year ago

        After reading about the convention, it doesn’t contradict the proposed definition, and the convention is using a definition limited in scope only defining violence against women or trans women. But not men, who can also be victims of rape. Also, the convention is voluntary, and any signatory country can leave it any time, like Turkey already did.

        So again, there is no reason to oppose the definition as it’s currently proposed, as it doesn’t contradict the definition used by convention and expands it to cover areas that convention doesn’t.