The US Supreme Court has declined to put a temporary hold on an Illinois law that bans the sale of assault-style weapons and a variety of other guns and accessories.
The law will require existing owners of the restricted items to register them by 1 January.
A gun rights group and the owner of a gun shop have sued to stop the implementation of the law.
Their case has consistently been rebuffed by lower courts.
The legislation took effect in January and sales of the restricted guns were stopped immediately.
“Assault Weapon” has largely been a term since the early 90s during the first attempt at a Federal Assault Weapons Ban. It is a generic term that, at a high level, more or less lines up with “assault rifles, automatic weapons, and high capacity magazines”. But I hear you, obviously in good faith, ask
Good news. There is a handy dandy PDF that goes into great detail and even provides flow charts so you can figure out if a rifle or shotgun or whatever that is not explicitly listed in the guide still counts as an assault weapon
https://isp.illinois.gov/StaticFiles/docs/Home/AssaultWeapons/PICA Identification Guide.pdf
I get it. There are so many bad faith gun nuts out there who just can’t help but spew the same tired propaganda from the 90s when the NRA and other lobbyists torpedo’d the FAWB (if you ever wondered why there were so many awkward cutouts that made it so ineffective…). But the good news is that law makers actually are aware of that and are providing not only specific weapon lists but also details on what makes them count as an “assault weapon” for the purpose of the law.
I realize that you, obviously acting in good faith, could have made a much better one liner. But cut the lawmakers trying to reduce the number of dead children some slack for not getting the marketing to your high standards. They have higher priorities. Like… fewer dead kids and mass shooting events.
I know what guns the law bans - I’m saying that there’s no common trait among those guns other than the fact that they’re scary-looking. Assault rifles and other automatic weapons were already extremely difficult to get and effectively inaccessible to civilians before this law was passed. The newly banned guns just look like assault rifles.
That’s the low-effort fear-mongering which leads to counterproductive bans on guns that look scary to the general public without actually being more dangerous than guns that remain legal.
Actually, there are some very common traits. Like pistol grips, threaded barrels, etc. I strongly suggest actually looking at the PDF rather than what you assume it says. It is a remarkably helpful PDF and, while I would prefer it to be stricter, this seems like a good law because it is very clear definitions for gun owners that (mostly) have the goal of reducing effectiveness in close quarters/“urban” environments (so preschools) and reducing ammo capacity. Like, I almost wish they hadn’t listed the specific examples and just done the “definitions” and “flow chart” sections.
And deepest apologies if my horror over the 306 school shootings in 2023 (as of November 10th) is too much “fearmongering” for you.
I read that specific PDF before making my original post, but I see why my post may have been unclear. I wasn’t saying that one rifle with a pistol grip has nothing in common with another rifle with a pistol grip - that’s not true because obviously they’re both rifles with pistol grips. What I was saying is that a rifle with a pistol grip and a pistol with a threaded barrel (but not a pistol with a pistol grip) have nothing in common beyond their association with the military.
Some of the banned features do make weapons easier to handle in close-quarters environments, but not more so than other weapons (semiautomatic pistols) which are legal and clearly protected by the second amendment as it is currently interpreted.
Pretty much everyone including me is horrified by school shootings, and the implication that I’m somehow insufficiently horrified by them would be offensive if it weren’t ridiculous. I’m still comfortable arguing against this law because I expect it to have no effect on how many school shootings take place or on how deadly each shooting is. (Maybe the limits on magazine size would help, and so I haven’t brought them up. Otherwise I think no gun control law much less strict than a ban on all semi-automatic weapons including pistols with no grandfather clause for weapons which people already own would do much at all.)
… Why do they need to have anything in common?
Threaded barrels allow for adding of suppressors of various varieties which make it harder for cops to find them (so that said cops can flee in the opposite direction…). As well as compensators which make rapid fire more viable (whether illegal automatic fire mod, bump stock, or just squeezing really fast).
Pistol grips allow for faster short/mid-range aiming and much better ergonomics.
And, because I am sure you are engaging in good faith: you’ll note that the pistol rules basically remove the “SBR” loophole that everyone and their mother loves. Because aiming with a pistol under stress is difficult and there is a reason that buttstocks are a thing.
But there is absolutely no reason those two have to be “linked”. Just like you can acknowledge that fire and poison are both bad without needing a link between smoking next to a bucket full of kerosene and drinking said kerosene (… ignore that I just made a link).
Currently, the Supreme Court does not agree with you. Whether they will change their mind if and when they do a full opinion is anyone’s guess. But if this were as clear cut as that, there would already be a halt.
Whether you agree with that or not is a different matter. But it clearly negates the “This is illegal so it is wrong” argument.
I like how one of the examples is a pistol from 1896.
It’s pretty thorough, but I do note that the Mini-14, which has very similar specs to the AR-15, does not appear to be banned in that guide.
I assume most of the examples were whatever was handy in various evidence rooms.
I am basically always for stricter gun control laws. But this seems pretty reasonable. Without banning all semiauto weapons (and now I have a chubby…), this basically gets rid of all “military style”/“tacticool” weapons that are easily concealable. Yes, you can do a LOT of damage with a mini-14 but it is basically a semiauto hunting rifle (which is useful if you are an idiot and in bear country or whatever).
And, as has been demonstrated over the past century or so, using a weapon without some form of pistol/thumbhole grip in close quarters is very inadvisable. Which restricts this to the clocktower shooters of the 70s and 80s as opposed to the modern day elementary school shooter.
I’m getting a 404 from your link.
Worked for me