I remember using Kodi around 2012 and it was a bit of a hassle to get it set up initially (install different repos etc.) since out of the box it was very vanilla. Is it still the same process or has it gotten better where users can hit the ground running after install?
I started using it on Linux, then a Mi Box and finally and since then a Nvidia Shield TV Pro, I think it maybe has the same “difficult” steps to set it up (meaning navigating through many menus and using the keyboard several times, something not ideal on a device with a remote), if you go with the default skin (which I despise) then you can save a lot of time thinkering (I kinda don’t mind this).
Anyway, when you have your setup working as you want it then it requires low maintenance, add-ons can auto update themselves and I haven’t found they broke horribly or feel the need to disable auto update and check changelogs for every version before updating lol.
It definitely isn’t as plug and play as with, let’s say Stremio, but once you set it up you have a lot more flexibility, filters, customization, you name it.
Plex is also a much better music player/streamer if you have plex pass with plexamp. Jellyfin’s audio renderer is pitifully bad by default, and only marginally better if you modify the factory file to use something like MPC-HC. Also, Jellyfin’s album and artist sorting is pretty mid.
Plus one for symfonium. I’m just wondering how to deal with my 5 star music ratings in plex. I typically listen to playlists based on a star rating of 3-5 stars and sometimes I’m only in the mood for 5 star songs so I have like 3 or 4 playlists. I would hate to have to individually rate songs all over again. Also seems like jellyfin only has a like system…
I’m guessing Symfonium doesn’t have custom DJ modes and automatic music mixes based on your local library and past listening habits? Their website doesn’t mention.
The DJ modes and track/album radio and artist mixes are what sold me on Plexamp.
Probably can’t, I’m on iOS; it looks to be Android only. Airplay is also a fairly important feature for me, since Airplay and DLNA are the main ways I send my music to devices.
Re: DJ modes, Plex does a full sonic analysis (ala Musicbrainz) of your music and uses this for mixes and DJs, for doing things like adding sonically similar songs into your set list or doing a sonic adventure every few tracks. It also uses metadata for stuff like playing tracks from the same artist, or same era (e.g 1990s).
The features make for very dynamic automatic playlists that work well and flow smoothly both within and between different genres.
I have debated getting a lifetime plex pass for a few reasons, I might when it’s next on sale but I’m not fully decided on it yet. I have been using Plexamp recently to listen to audiodramas though, sorting through stuff like that with anything other than the file structure I have already set up just really does not work for me
I prefer Jellyfin for just watching stuff on my TV streamed from my computer though
I said easier, setting up a vpn for my family to be able to remotely access my media on their TV is no where near as easy as setting up a Plex server and sharing it that way
You shouldn’t be opening up access to your Jellyfin server to the internet, that’s why.
Not only are there known vulnerabilities that can, and will, be abused by bad actors (Not even humans, automated systems). But it also provides a convenient way for media entities & your ISP to target you in mass piracy crackdowns.
Nevermind the undisclosed or unknown vulnerabilities that may be exposed by Jellyfin.
Having it behind a VPN protects you and your media.
Likely upnp or nat-pnp. Enabling "Enable automatic port mapping"within Jellyfin will accomplish the same thing without needing a paid Plex subscription.
Disney owns 30 percent of media. Just because you don’t care about what they have doesn’t mean it’s not worth to someone.
I’m saying this as someone who is in a similar boat where I don’t really care for anything they make beyond the occasional marvel movie but not all and also I’ll just pirate what I like anyways.
They inherited tons of good stuff people seem to ignore. I think that’s partly because big chunks of that library are still available on other services, but if they decide to make everything they own exclusive, it’ll be much more of a pain in the ass.
Iirc a lot of stuff is allowed on other services because it might not fit in with their branding. Same reason Hulu is still a thing even though Disney owns them.
I love this image, usually when I talk well about Stremio they think I’m shitting on Kodi, and that couldn’t be more far from the truth!
I like this duo beating up companies and I use both!
I use both too!
I remember using Kodi around 2012 and it was a bit of a hassle to get it set up initially (install different repos etc.) since out of the box it was very vanilla. Is it still the same process or has it gotten better where users can hit the ground running after install?
I started using it on Linux, then a Mi Box and finally and since then a Nvidia Shield TV Pro, I think it maybe has the same “difficult” steps to set it up (meaning navigating through many menus and using the keyboard several times, something not ideal on a device with a remote), if you go with the default skin (which I despise) then you can save a lot of time thinkering (I kinda don’t mind this).
Anyway, when you have your setup working as you want it then it requires low maintenance, add-ons can auto update themselves and I haven’t found they broke horribly or feel the need to disable auto update and check changelogs for every version before updating lol.
It definitely isn’t as plug and play as with, let’s say Stremio, but once you set it up you have a lot more flexibility, filters, customization, you name it.
Ok thanks for the response. I will check it out again.
Jellyfin is better if you watch on multiple devices and remotely
Stremio can do that, if you are the only one doing it ofc (no account sharing if you use a debrid service).
But then you have to host all of it yourself right? Why would people want to go through that hassle when Stremio + debrid is cheap as hell?
Because some of us want to have more control
Would put Plex in there as well if it wasn’t for their recent opt-out streaming history visibility update.
No need to use Plex
https://jellyfin.org/
I use Jellyfin and plex still has it’s uses, much easier to share content remotely for example
Plex is also a much better music player/streamer if you have plex pass with plexamp. Jellyfin’s audio renderer is pitifully bad by default, and only marginally better if you modify the factory file to use something like MPC-HC. Also, Jellyfin’s album and artist sorting is pretty mid.
Just use Jellyfin with Symfonium
Plus one for symfonium. I’m just wondering how to deal with my 5 star music ratings in plex. I typically listen to playlists based on a star rating of 3-5 stars and sometimes I’m only in the mood for 5 star songs so I have like 3 or 4 playlists. I would hate to have to individually rate songs all over again. Also seems like jellyfin only has a like system…
I’m guessing Symfonium doesn’t have custom DJ modes and automatic music mixes based on your local library and past listening habits? Their website doesn’t mention.
The DJ modes and track/album radio and artist mixes are what sold me on Plexamp.
Don’t know what DJ modes are but it has automatic mixes. Just try it I guess.
Probably can’t, I’m on iOS; it looks to be Android only. Airplay is also a fairly important feature for me, since Airplay and DLNA are the main ways I send my music to devices.
Re: DJ modes, Plex does a full sonic analysis (ala Musicbrainz) of your music and uses this for mixes and DJs, for doing things like adding sonically similar songs into your set list or doing a sonic adventure every few tracks. It also uses metadata for stuff like playing tracks from the same artist, or same era (e.g 1990s).
The features make for very dynamic automatic playlists that work well and flow smoothly both within and between different genres.
Or use Symfonium with Navidrome
I have debated getting a lifetime plex pass for a few reasons, I might when it’s next on sale but I’m not fully decided on it yet. I have been using Plexamp recently to listen to audiodramas though, sorting through stuff like that with anything other than the file structure I have already set up just really does not work for me
I prefer Jellyfin for just watching stuff on my TV streamed from my computer though
How so? You can use tailscale/wireguard or just port forward to remotely access.
I said easier, setting up a vpn for my family to be able to remotely access my media on their TV is no where near as easy as setting up a Plex server and sharing it that way
Port forwarding doesn’t require VPN.
Does Plex Sharing not open up ports either manually or via UPnpP?
You shouldn’t be opening up access to your Jellyfin server to the internet, that’s why.
Not only are there known vulnerabilities that can, and will, be abused by bad actors (Not even humans, automated systems). But it also provides a convenient way for media entities & your ISP to target you in mass piracy crackdowns.
Nevermind the undisclosed or unknown vulnerabilities that may be exposed by Jellyfin.
Having it behind a VPN protects you and your media.
VPN reduces streaming performance because of the encryption though
Plex sharing also opens up the ports, and is what the user is using already.
I am in a situation where I can’t open up ports manually (or access my router at all) so it’s definitely not manual
Likely upnp or nat-pnp. Enabling "Enable automatic port mapping"within Jellyfin will accomplish the same thing without needing a paid Plex subscription.
Comics like this assume that the service in question has anything worth pirating. We’re talking about Disney here, though.
Disney owns 30 percent of media. Just because you don’t care about what they have doesn’t mean it’s not worth to someone.
I’m saying this as someone who is in a similar boat where I don’t really care for anything they make beyond the occasional marvel movie but not all and also I’ll just pirate what I like anyways.
They inherited tons of good stuff people seem to ignore. I think that’s partly because big chunks of that library are still available on other services, but if they decide to make everything they own exclusive, it’ll be much more of a pain in the ass.
Iirc a lot of stuff is allowed on other services because it might not fit in with their branding. Same reason Hulu is still a thing even though Disney owns them.
They got the X-Files here
Stremio the GOAT
popcorn time?