• Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee
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    There’s no good guy in this conflict. No matter which way you look at it, this is not a defensive action by Israel.

    you’re pretty much saying not enough Israelis are dying so the bombing doesn’t matter

    What you’re saying is that provisional and hypothetical safety of civilians that aren’t evacuated is reason enough to stage an invasion with a blood price several hundred times higher.

    Among other things, the biggest difference here is that Israeli civilians can be evacuated. Palestinians have nowhere to go. They are dying in their homes or dying at the border where they have nowhere to go.

    the number of resolutions issued for human rights is comical

    So you’re insinuating that the number of human rights violations that Israel can be held liable for should be limited by some artificial volume considered “palatable” to some authority? Do you realize how ridiculous that is? If Israel is committing a comical number of human rights violations, they need to answer to a comical number of charges.

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      No, I’m saying that one country goes far out of its way to defend its people and the other does the exact opposite. That’s not Israel’s fault, they’re taking precautions for Gazans that Gazans refuse to take for themselves.

      Palestinians don’t have many places to go and the ones they have are immediately turned into staging grounds for rocket attacks. Israel is going to return fire even if it’s from an area they told people to seek refuge in. Would you expect them not to? Wanna know how this stops tomorrow? Release the hostages and lay down their arms, it’s over. That’s really how easy this can end. The Palestinians don’t care though, they’re soaking up western sympathy with the blood of their children and that’s exactly their plan.

      I’m not insinuating anything. I’m saying flat out that the UN has lost any semblance of reason on the Israel file and their record makes that abundantly clear. If there was an institution capable of investigating, I’d be all for it. The mopes who couldn’t find Hamas when they were literally sharing the same electrical meter aren’t the guys who can be trusted to investigate anything…who would you suggest investigate? Like I said, people who broke the law need to be held to account. I’m including the head of UNRWA in that.

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        they’re taking precautions for Gazans that Gazans refuse to take for themselves.

        This is laughable. Israelis were caught on video shooting refugees. At best they’re doing no worse than Hamas. Neither side cares about the civilians. The whole 2:1 thing is a nice, tidy piece of propaganda designed to sugarcoat the fact that they are killing civilians

        The Palestinians don’t care though, they’re soaking up western sympathy with the blood of their children and that’s exactly their plan

        Of all the bloviating you’re doing, of all the Israeli propaganda you’ve pushed, this is the most egregious. You’ve no proof of this strategy, just like you have no proof of Israel’s good intentions. You’re just dehumanizing a population of about a million in order to justify eliminating them all over a fighting force of maybe a tenth of them.

        Like I said, people who broke the law need to be held to account

        No I get it. It’s clear that your version of facing the law includes a blank check for genocide because “that’s the reality of war”.

        Of all the points you’ve made, you don’t seem to understand that a even a broken system with heavy bias against the aggressor is better than letting the aggressor do whatever they want to a population they have stated that they wish to eradicate.

        Saying “the UN is a joke” is not a justification.