So I was just doing a bit of research about some science advancements in graphene processors, as I heard about it in a segment about China’s recent research breakthroughs. I did some googling and found… let’s say a slightly biased perspective (Just kidding, it’s straight up propaganda)

So this is the research paper: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2308.12446.pdf

Notice how there are 12 researchers from Tianjin University in China, also notice how there are 3 researchers from Georgia Tech, this includes one american author who co-founded this research center with person in china. So this is a joint effort. He’s actually listed as also being a part of Tianjin University, so I guess 13 to 3 people in each respective university (one person double counted).

If you google for “graphene seg semiconductors” you get:

  • Georgia techs website first, okay.
  • A couple links to the article on arxiv and nature, cool,

And then, a bunch of news articles:

Well damn, with 13 out of the 15 researchers having affiliation with the lab in China, you would think that someone would emphasize that this research was done… In China? Not just “helped” by China, not just “assisted by”, but like, most of the research was done there. On paper this was a partnership, but most sites won’t even go that far. Georgia Tech did this/that/was awesome/yay america, oh and some place in China was involved too, only sometimes mentioned.

My god, it’s as if Usonians just can’t swallow the fact that China has scientists… and researchers… and like, smart people. As a Usonian who is breaking out of my media bubble, it’s crazy to me to see how fucking biased our “neutral” sources of information are. Wikipedia hasn’t been updated with this info yet, but I bet it will mark down all the awesome work Georgia tech did while only mentioning in passing that some place in China was also involved.

I’m not even gonna bother posting this to a lib space like reddit. The copium would be too much for me to handle. The only thing I can think about is if the tables were turned, no lib would have a problem calling out “CCP propaganda” after the first sentence of the article claimed “Tianjin University in China does breakthrough research on graphene processors!”

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    I’ve also discovered this in the field of Biology. A lot of biomolecular and genetics research is now done in China, and you’d be hard-pressed to find a paper that doesn’t have a majority Chinese scientists involved.

    I assume this is where the “Chinese spies steal US technology and research from universities” conspiracy theory comes from. A Chinese and Western university collaborate. The Western university gets all the credit in the west. A couple years later, the Chinese university actually advances the research even further. The Western media then say it was the Western university that started the research, and the Chinese university has stolen it.

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      The Western media then say it was the Western university that started the research, and the Chinese university has stolen it.

      The 重犁 and its consequences have been a disaster for the human species

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    china doesn’t simply just have scientists, they a science centric country (pardon me for lack of a better term), meaning they put science as a central pillar to development of the country, not only researchs get basically unlimited funding, they made a series of institutions to foment materialist and scientific though at an early age, students visits labs and members of chinese academy of sciences are treated like celebrities, and many other things to make the youth pursue a science carrer.

    meanwhile brazil for example is almost medieval.

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      Some Bolsonarists in Brazil believe in funny things about Brazilian universities, like students having sex everywhere, people smooking so much weed that there is green smoke in the air (no kidding, a famous Bolsonarist really said there is green smoke in Brazilian universities), students forcing others to use drugs etc. I believe the hidden sources of the Bolsonarist propaganda tried or are trying to reduce the credibility of universities in Brazil, probably because they see the universities as a threat to the far-right and liberal ideologies (they believe Brazilian universities are full of communists (it’s true that there is some amount of communists in the public universities in Brazil, but they are mostly concentrated in a few courses, while there is almost none of them in most courses primarily unrelated to politics)).

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        eu sei, também estou em situação de brasil.

        eu sou bolsista do prouni, estudei em faculdade privada, tinha professor que rasgava seda pro trump. uma outra hora eu postei uns memes de esquerda no whatsapp, aí um colega bolsonarista falou: o que foi que a faculdade fez contigo <marido da olga>?

        eles realmente acreditam que não só as publicas, mas faculdade no geral é antro de esquerdista e maconheiro.

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    Graphene was also btw invented in Poland but then sold to USA for peanuts because Poland govt think research is communism and were very embarrassed that something like this is still happening here.

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      Crazy information. I didn’t know that. To be honest though, that adds another piece of data. If all of the patents are in English people’s names, even if they literally just purchased them from people out of the country, then simply looking at who invented what would make it look like white people invented everything.

      And furthermore, to the big picture things, every major societal advancement was either invented by a socialist country or was produced by publicly funded programs in capitalist countries.

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    This isn’t new or American, it’s just yt in general

    • Shibasaburo was denied naming rights for the bubonic plague (which he discovered first) and also denied a Nobel prize for curing diphtheria
    • Bose also faced enormous racism (I haven’t read much about him)
    • Kikunae Ikeda discovered and characterized the Umami taste and its responsible Glutamate component back in 1907. It took over 100 years for that to even become vaguely known in the west, and mayos still bitch about the word “umami”
    • entire genuses native to China or India, and known since 3000 BC as medicine there, are named *Xylospongium ursabackenphylloxiphodae" with a common name of “Smith’s dildo” because John Smith “discovered” the dildo in the year 1927. Alternatively, you’ll have common names like “long apple” vs. “short apple” vs. “China apple” vs. “Himalayan apple”, even though actual, much older Indigenous names exist
    • Wikipedia and literal renaming of landmarks, IE: Ram Setu. Imagine unironically calling the Eiffel Tower “Shiva’s tower”, this is literally what mayos do right now

    Also half of the “American” researchers are Chinese or Indian or elsewhere from the Global South

    TGotFW, 1 billion Mount Denalis

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      His snubbing by the Nobel committee was completely racially biased and a perfect example of what you were discussing, but I will say that he wasn’t credited for the discovery of the bubonic plague because of a stroke of really bad luck and poor communication.

      He did isolate the disease and identify it, but his initial reports were extremely vague, and he didn’t elaborate further when his superiors and peers in Japan pressed for more information. Further, his samples became contaminated with a separate bacteria, causing his later reports to be extremely wrong and contradictory making his peers disregard his work. The other scientist on the other hand managed to isolate the disease without contamination, and double identified its source and mode of transmission, that being fleas. Shibasaburo was unable to identify the source of the disease.

      Despite that, he’s still listed as a co-discoverer in basically all reputable biology sources. He just got really unlucky, and his work was shoddy because of that poor luck.

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    My wife works in educational research. The other day she discovered a couple of huge, cross-country studies on primary & secondary math education, one of which is ongoing as a decades-spanning study, following changes over time.

    In summary: Burgerland math education it abysmal compared to China’s. It’s completely flipped from the racist tropes we’re told: that Chinese students just learn by rote and don’t develop a deeper understanding. It’s actually the complete reverse: that’s how Burgerland students are taught. Chinese students are taught to & expected to figure out solutions to problems with much less hand holding, while Burgerland students are practically hand-fed solutions.

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    The Americans really can’t accept that China has scientists and researchers. They’ve been claiming for decades now (entirely without evidence) that “China might produce 10 times the scientific papers as the US, but 90% of those are just fakes” which seems pretty unlikely. I don’t know what kind of atmosphere Chinese academia has, but I doubt it is one that encourages fudging the data to that degree, especially since we see a lot of real developments out of the country, which we wouldn’t if their scientific work is all just smoke and mirrors designed to trick westerners (always seems to come back to that whenever westerners accuse anything in China of being fake, if the 3 gorges dam were made today, during this current wave of sinophobia, they’d probably call it fake too.)

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      I can’t speak for Chinese research but so much produced by westerners is smoke and mirrors. Designed to trick funders out of some sexy grant money or to trick the reader into thinking that liberal thinking is anything like rigorous or grounded in reality.

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    The according to a college professor in the international development department, racist white people in authority of transnational organizations often write fake claims that the the work from people of color are the work of white people unless there is explicit written claim in the intellectual property that the work comes from the people of color. Also, the racist white free riders in British diaspora justify cheating, thief, violence, planned poverty, chemical attacks, authoritarianism, and other human right violations against Indigenous people under the lie that the Indigenous people had never been productive which negate the free humanitarian aids that allow the great plagiarizer Christopher Columbus to survive his first voyage to America, economy of gift-giving that allow the survival of European immigrant communities in North America, democracy that the USA copied from the Six Civilized tribes, and sharing of land with rich resource with outsiders like the European immigrants which allow the European immigrants to think that they can rob every land from First Nations under the delusion that Native Americans do not own land. There is also the Indian Residential fake school death camps from 1850s that contunues in secret after 1998 that provided free child labor, free stuff from children allowance money, free inheritance thief of children who did not ‘follow’ their ancestral ‘tradition’, free human child experimentations for improvement to health services like the food guide for healthy diet, and opportunity for racist white pedophile, racist white molesters, racist white rapists, racist white murderers, and dangerous sociopaths to be promoted into high position of society through their war crimes in the fake school death camps.

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    they can’t conceive that the only country in the world that still has creationists fighting tooth and nails to teach in schools the bible in science class maybe wouldn’t be the smartest country in the fkn world! america fck yeah!

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    Wouldn’t that be because the Chinese articles and websites would be in… Chinese? Meaning that why would Google recommend Chinese sources to a person searching in English. Especially since search engines operate by searching for what you type in, not the topics as a whole.

    Would the result change if you searched Google in Chinese?

    This applies for the scientific articles. The news scrubbing is still disgusting.

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      Okay, so I’ve been thinking about this one myself too. Baidu might have different results But at the same time, you would think that at least mentioning the partnership involved would have happened more often than not.

      And it wouldn’t tickle me so hard if all of the English-speaking internet believed that all their shit was so fucking neutral. Like Wikipedia is the source of all human knowledge. But kind of ignoring the fact that it’s from a completely colonial perspective, And all of their history and politics pages are written from a purely Western perspective.

      Also, if anybody has any recommendations on reading Chinese internet in English or using tools or something, I’m very interested in pursuing it, but I haven’t had the time to sit down and really study it. But if you send me some links, then I’ll put them in my backlog and get to it later.