• vexikron
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    4 months ago

    To me the thing that best illustrates the insanity is that the assault rifles look to be some kind of AK platform, but with extended barrels, after market barrel shroud/housing/handguard, probably aftermarket grip, the tell tale scope mount required for mounting a high magnification long range optic on an AK type of assault rifle and then a high powered optic.

    So… ok. An AK 47 or AKM and basically all of its Eastern Block variants fire 7.62 x 39 and generally speaking have an effective range of 300 meters.

    An AK 74 and its Eastern Block variants fire 5.45 x 45 and have an effective range of about 400 meters.

    Now… ok. We’ve got extended barrels. That increases effective range, but probably not by more than around 100 meters for both of those.

    For comparison, consider what most Americans would probably these days call a designated marksman rifle, not even a true sniper rifle, that is also of Soviet origin, the SVD.

    It does not have as much magnification on its standard optics as these genuine sniper rifle optics they are mounting on assault rifles.

    EDIT: If my memory is correct, the stock SVD scope from the 80s has a magnification of 4x and i think it might be up to 6x with newer SVD compatible scopes.

    It fires 7.62 x 54r and has an effective range of 1200 meters.

    What these goobers here have done is made a weapon that while yes you can make a weapon like this by modifying either a legally manufactured/importable semi auto AK47 or AK74 based design, or just generally illegally acquiring an old real one thats full auto capable… it makes no sense.

    Putting a high powered telescopic sight as indicated by the silhouette on a weapon that is not capable of accuracy at ranges even approaching one half of the maximum magnification of such a sight is a giant pointless waste of money.

    It also makes the weapon more heavy, more unwieldy, and more acquire a target at or below the actual effective range of the weapon.

    Unless you keep the magnification levels far below what the optic is capable of. In which case… why would you use a tremendously expensive optic capable of something like 12x magnification when 2x 4x is all you will ever actually need for a weapon with that range?

    Its basically a totally absurd way to modify an AK, that only makes sense if you are more into tricking out / blinging your gun than you are into having a gun that actually works well.

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      I feel like you’re reading into this way more than is necessary. These are the types of people that drive jacked up trucks with truck nuts and led lights all over and never hauled anything in their lives. You know, morons.

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        Yeah that’s kinda his point. Their posturing around guns and whatever other machismo is based on no actual experience at all, it’s just LARPing

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          Basically yeah, these are the kind of people who act big and tough and scary, as if theyre all ex special forces members with serious tactical kinetic force multiplying knowledge sets…

          …but in actuality theyre more like insufferable gun enthusiast fan boys who have spent waaaay too much time reading and watching firearms related content, instead of actually using firearms, to the point that they come up with an overcomplicated and nonsensical ideology that gives their otherwise sad selves something to cling to and make a core part of their personality.

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        Well Im not reading into this at all.

        When one is said to be reading too much into something, that means that one is making conclusions that might be a bit too strong or a bit too extreme to be supported by the available evidence, or the referenced scenario or story.

        Thats not what I am doing here, what I am doing is using my knowledge of firearms to explain an absurdity. I am not really concluding anything other than these people are absurd, heres another reason why.

        Many people enjoy lengthy explanations of absurdity in detail so that one can understand the true depth or nature of that absurdity.

        If you are not a person who enjoys that, that’s fine I guess?

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      4 months ago

      It’s basically a G3 or something similar, no need for this senseless post at all

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        4 months ago

        G3 mags don’t curve, dont need the tell tale kind of scope mount I mentioned, so youre just factually wrong here.

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        Even if it was, it still doesnt make any sense to slap a 2 to 4 thousand dollar high powered scope on an assault rifle with roughly the same effective range as an AK47, AKM or AK74, for all the same reasons.