Of course, that’s to be expected, with people migrating from Reddit and all, but the title is kind of badly worded.
Feel there’s a lot more argumentative and just kind of… angry users on here. (have you seen Sync fans biting everyone’s asses over saying money should be spent funding instances and not an app?)
Live laugh love Lemmy though :)
I think it hasn’t gotten more reddity… it’s getting more peoply. Just the way people are.
How dare they! Everyone must arrive completely free of bias and judgement, nice, and open-minded.
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This is one of the most reddit-y posts I’ve seen so fae
Sync fans
That’s the core of the issue, the vast majority of them want a Reddit experience here. Before the app announcement, the general vibe here was putting privacy and online freedom above convenience, without obviously neglecting the latter. Now strangely enough, we suddenly got brigades of Redditors putting in lots of effort to repeatedly defend their overpriced purchase and troll those who dare to say that an ad-funded “free” Lemmy app is just plain wrong.
I have noticed an uptick in trolling in the past few weeks, since around the same time as the attacks began. They usually delete if you call them out.
I’ve started using the block button liberally. Specifically on users that seem to be only interested in stirring the pot and not actually interested in having any kind of actual discussion. I also just blocked a weird influx of porn bots linking the strangest domains on [email protected] that were all created yesterday
I rarely blocked people on reddit but the pool is much smaller here so you tend to run into the same troll repeatedly or they spam throughout ansingle thread
Ive taken to just reporting and blocking left and right because i dont have the mental bandwidth to spend on someone who is looking for fights and not legitimate arguments
Oh my Reddit blocklist was huge. There was a subreddit for my city I was fairly active in but it was just always littered with unabashed racists that I would block all the time, they would get banned, they would make a new account to keep being racist, I would block again.
I’m exactly the same!
In my experience, this has always been a problem after a forum grows beyond a certain size. It’s not really a Reddit-exclusive thing. It’s also not related to karma/reputation-tracking, IMO.
Early adopters of a small, somewhat empty community are people who want to grow the community and encourage posting. Discussion is bright and careful in certain ways because it’s usually just a few commenters interacting with each other who all want the same thing.
Once a community grows big enough to support lurkers and a variety of topics, with multifaceted discussion happening naturally, you have a familiar effect happen: you know how people are disproportionately more likely to review a product or business if they had a negative experience than a positive one? Well, in a similar way, when there’s enough content to lurk (and not be one of the early enthusiasts who post in spite of a lack of content, as a duty to help the community grow), then lurkers are more likely to come out of the woodwork and join a discussion when they see something they disagree with or feel strongly about.
Honestly, though, it has a few silver linings. I grew up learning a lot from arguments online in various places. Sometimes they are handled well and sometimes they are handled poorly by the participants. Learn from both. It’s great to see two sides of an issue, even a petty one. It can teach you a ton about how to behave well, how to actually persuade someone on a topic, and how to avoid conflict in the first place. It can also teach you about a controversial topic you knew little about, and spark your curiosity to learn more (if only to refute something with citations) and sometimes change your opinion altogether.
The healthy/toxic dichotomy starts in your own mind. You can’t control others, but you can control yourself. So find those little positive nuggets where you can.
I died a little when I read “Live laugh love lemmy”. That should be illegal!
Thats better than live laugh liao
Honestly, yeah. I’ve been pretty disappointed in general, to be honest. Once you take away all the bot-spam, zero-effort memes, and doomerism, there isn’t a while lot of actual content on here.
Which is unfortunate, because I love the concept of Lemmy, and I can’t go back to Reddit. I’m still holding out hope, though.
I set aside some time to really browse communities and subscribe to the ones I’m interested in. My Home feed is pretty good now and isn’t just filled with memes and porn. Sure, there aren’t as much comments as reddit, but it also makes discussions more meaningful because my comments are not instantly buried in low-effort jokes and puns. I just browse All from time to time to see what else is out there and maybe discover some new communities. It also helps to have accounts on different instances because the Local feed varies too.
I have to agree. Especially with that last one. The amount of cynical people on here making up a strong vocal (hopefully) minority is really disappointing
Is this comment not cynical and/or pessimistic?
there isn’t a while lot of actual content on here.
I mean how many posts/threads do you really need a day? I read 10-15 or so. That’s plenty
In my current subscribed feed, I’m lucky to get 10-15 posts total in a week, and even on All I don’t see nearly 10-15 threads I’m actually interested in in a week.
I realize a large part of this could be that I need to subscribe to more communities, but I haven’t seen any more that I’m into yet.
Interesting! I actually have not subscribed to a ton of stuff yet, but I feel like I’m seeing more than enough per day. The actual comments/threads aren’t super populated necessarily, but frankly, I think that’s a good thing. It’s keeping me from doom scrolling and I’m not getting bogged down in arguments like I used to on Reddit.
I feel like it was super reddit-y at the start of July, and then it started calming down to how it was before.
I feel it’s been way more Reddit-y this week. Maybe I’m just having a shit week.
Hope you feel better!
I noticed it when going outside my subscribed feed shifted from being kind of nerdy tech and games topics to being more flooded with memes and a whole lot of politics and news. Not that there’s anything wrong with those communities. It’s just not what I’m interested in, and with that type of content starting to dominate and making it harder to find new communities I’m interested in I started blocking a bunch of communities again. Especially when communities like against____spam started popping up, since those spam the most content about ____.
I’ve only had one thread conversation which really felt like a proper Reddit one (and it wasn’t a political one, a TV related one).
It depends on your definition but for me it’s roughly ‘able to have civil conversation/debate without descending into attacks or points being dismissed because you don’t like them and generally feeling like you’re dealing with a 14 year old’
That said not every Reddit interaction is completely shit, it’s just more likely to become that way
Holy crap dude, I saw this a day or so ago and just kind of passed over it thinking “eh, no way it’s THAT bad”…but every discussion I’ve had today has devolved into these weird accusations and almost conspiracy-like behavior (replies with things like “you’re from THAT orange site aren’t you? I came here to get away from people like you”)…
It’s like some of the people here are super amped up, and we’re not even talking political corners of lemmy, just normal ass groups like piracy, or 3d printing, etc.
I just wanted to read some Strange Planet and Extra Fabulous Comics… Maybe a little Pizzacake… See what the latest memes are… I had no idea what Barbieheimer was until CNN told me…
I haven’t used Reddit in a good couple of months, but there are some things I miss. Anyway, I promise not to reply to anything with “This”…
Beans were popular a couple weeks ago. I see more random memes than reddit, it’s still a wild wild west of funny memes.
This
I’m already having Reddit style debates so definitely
Too many bad faith weirdos
The ratio of good discussions to that noise is pretty good though
With online discussion, there always will be. The only really thing you can do is to know when is the best time to abort a conversation. Especially in Reddit-like social media, when one person is getting downvotes then they are assumed to be wrong, then the hive mind brain kicks in.
Yeah, for sure
Know when to stop, and also just knowing when not to comment in the first place honestly
I’ve found myself swiping to reply to a comment and just realizing it’s a waste of time when i could be contributing to an actually good discussion instead
“Never miss a good chance to shut up” - Mark Twain (probably)
This is some advice I definitely need to work on practicing better lol
Just my personal experience, but I do feel like people have been a lot quicker to be snippy and not as nice and welcoming these last two weeks or so compared to a 2 months ago when I first got here.
