Curious how none of these Republican house committee members gave a damn when everyone of Trump‘s children did this for their entire lives. Now they suddenly have a problem with Hunter Biden doing it?
I think you’re missing the point. It’s one thing to use your parents’ influence to get ahead in business, but it’s another thing entirely to use their influence to withhold international aid and pressure a foreign government to kill a corruption investigation into the company that you just so happen to sit on the board of. Granted, these are all just allegations at this point, but that’s why this case is receiving so much attention.
Well, if you can produce evidence of that, or if anyone else can produce evidence of that, then it should be investigated. Currently, there is no evidence of that. Therefore, an investigation into that does not seem to be warranted. Not legally, anyway.
You even admit that all there are are “allegations”. That’s not enough to even sustain a search warrant. You can’t just go violating someone’s rights because you have some sort of allegation or suspicion. And the GOP is trying to start some conspiracy circus because they don’t have dirt on Joe Biden, so they’re trying to get to him by making up a bunch of crap about his son instead. and while Hunter Biden may be kind of a scumbag, unless they can actually produce evidence that he did anything illegal with regards to his father, and they haven’t been able to so far, there’s no reason to start a house committee investigation.
I think you’re missing the point. Ousting Shokin wasn’t Biden blocking corruption investigations, it was him literally doing the bidding of the Obama administration, and was supported by the IMF and the entire G-7. That’s why he was proud of it, because it was an example of him doing his job exceptionally well. Also Shokin liked to open investigations then leave them open as blackmail, which is exactly what he did to Burisma, so this isn’t some smoking gun.
I think you’re missing the part of the report where this “bombshell testimony” confirms that that never happened, and all these charges hinge on the implication that it could just because Hunter is Joe’s son. This is about, to quote the testimony, “the illusion of access to the president”.
Hunter Biden and his uncle literally ran a mutual fund that he sold to investors as giving access to Joe. The FBI shut it down.
Dems are showing their true colors on this. Ivanka and Jared were rightly called out for years but Hunter does almost the same shit, just worse, and even approaching it with that level of analysis gets shouted down. Could political parties give a fuck about their own team’s corruption, please? Dems are supposed to be different but boy howdy the us vs them mentality is so fucking strong.
Amazing. Not one word of that was true. Impressive accomplishment.
No, Hunter wasn’t doing “almost the same shit.” No, it wasn’t “worse.” And the reason it gets “shouted down” is because it’s lying bullshit, and we’ve got no reason to put up with that.
This “both sides” garbage - as if Hunter name-dropping his dad is identical to Trump’s kids literally selling access to theirs - with his enthusiastic involvement - is reprehensible. It’s disgusting, it’s sick, and it’s disingenuous.
From that article since we are talking Trumplestiltskin the CheetosRaper endorsing his KorruptoKidz:
There’s no evidence that Joe Biden used his power inappropriately or took action to benefit his relatives with respect to these ventures. These entanglements could pose problems for Democrats as they seek to draw a contrast with President Donald Trump, who they accuse of corruption for mixing politics with his own family’s business ventures.
I left the rest in there since this is from 2019 and pre-Traitor Sedition. I do not like the Bidens anymore than the Kennedys or Clinton’s but these do not compare.
“Hunter Biden and his uncle literally ran a mutual fund that he sold to investors as giving access to Joe. The FBI shut it down.”
But you were. That was you. You brought up Joe Biden. Which again, where is the evidence for that? Because your article has zero evidence for actual “access” being sold and granted.
The other person quoted your article saying that there was no evidence Joe Biden used his position to benefit any of his family’s business dealings. Even if Hunter was going around saying “do you know who my dad is”, if Joe Biden didn’t have anything to do with it, it didn’t do anything. We don’t throw people in jail for name dropping.
Dollar per dollar, what the trumps did is literally worse. They literally made billions off of foreign deals, meanwhile hunter funneled how much? Math is math.
I would say it’s worse in Trump’s case because Ivanka and Jared had been working for the white house. Jared also had security clearance which he never should have had.
When Hunter works for the government or runs from office, then I’ll care. Right now he’s just a private citizen and he doesn’t seem to have any influence in his father’s job.
Tjey should at least investigate jared and Ivanka in the white house and their business dealings. Like how he got a bailout on his tower and the $2 bill from the Saudis. Did Jared trade our secrets and security for $2 billion?
It’s bad in the sense that I wouldn’t want to hang out with someone who did it, but there’s nothing illegal in using your famous parent to get a leg up in your own dealings.
It makes you seem like a spoiled trust fund kiddy, but last time I checked, being obnoxious isn’t actually a crime.
The point being made isn’t that it’s OK for Hunter but bad for the Trump kids, it’s that its being made out as a conspiracy and crime for Hunter by republicans, whereas those same Republicans had no issue whatsoever with the Trump kids doing it (and continuing to do it today)
I think if either party wants to be taken seriously, they should start by looking within their own party and prove that nobody is above the law.
Trumps, Bidens I don’t care. But instead of attacking your political opponent’s family, why not show the world what you stand for yourself by persecuting those within your own party.
Curious how none of these Republican house committee members gave a damn when everyone of Trump‘s children did this for their entire lives. Now they suddenly have a problem with Hunter Biden doing it?
Give me a fucking break 
I think you’re missing the point. It’s one thing to use your parents’ influence to get ahead in business, but it’s another thing entirely to use their influence to withhold international aid and pressure a foreign government to kill a corruption investigation into the company that you just so happen to sit on the board of. Granted, these are all just allegations at this point, but that’s why this case is receiving so much attention.
Well, if you can produce evidence of that, or if anyone else can produce evidence of that, then it should be investigated. Currently, there is no evidence of that. Therefore, an investigation into that does not seem to be warranted. Not legally, anyway.
You even admit that all there are are “allegations”. That’s not enough to even sustain a search warrant. You can’t just go violating someone’s rights because you have some sort of allegation or suspicion. And the GOP is trying to start some conspiracy circus because they don’t have dirt on Joe Biden, so they’re trying to get to him by making up a bunch of crap about his son instead. and while Hunter Biden may be kind of a scumbag, unless they can actually produce evidence that he did anything illegal with regards to his father, and they haven’t been able to so far, there’s no reason to start a house committee investigation.
I think you’re missing the point. Ousting Shokin wasn’t Biden blocking corruption investigations, it was him literally doing the bidding of the Obama administration, and was supported by the IMF and the entire G-7. That’s why he was proud of it, because it was an example of him doing his job exceptionally well. Also Shokin liked to open investigations then leave them open as blackmail, which is exactly what he did to Burisma, so this isn’t some smoking gun.
Shokin is also a corrupt pro-russian operative.
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I think you’re missing the part of the report where this “bombshell testimony” confirms that that never happened, and all these charges hinge on the implication that it could just because Hunter is Joe’s son. This is about, to quote the testimony, “the illusion of access to the president”.
Because they don’t care and never cared. They’re entirely disingenuous and trying to call them out on hypocrisy as if it matters is a losing game.
So is it bad or not? It’s either wrong for both or neither.
It’s not great, but it’s also not a big deal. Kids flaunt their famous parents.
The difference here? Trump’s kids actually legit sold access, with their father’s enthusiastic consent* and involvement.
*The only time he’s ever cared about consent
Hunter Biden and his uncle literally ran a mutual fund that he sold to investors as giving access to Joe. The FBI shut it down.
Dems are showing their true colors on this. Ivanka and Jared were rightly called out for years but Hunter does almost the same shit, just worse, and even approaching it with that level of analysis gets shouted down. Could political parties give a fuck about their own team’s corruption, please? Dems are supposed to be different but boy howdy the us vs them mentality is so fucking strong.
Amazing. Not one word of that was true. Impressive accomplishment.
No, Hunter wasn’t doing “almost the same shit.” No, it wasn’t “worse.” And the reason it gets “shouted down” is because it’s lying bullshit, and we’ve got no reason to put up with that.
This “both sides” garbage - as if Hunter name-dropping his dad is identical to Trump’s kids literally selling access to theirs - with his enthusiastic involvement - is reprehensible. It’s disgusting, it’s sick, and it’s disingenuous.
https://www.politico.eu/article/joe-biden-presidential-bid-family-business-history-democrats/
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It’s really hard to believe y’all aren’t bots in the first place but that little bit of Gilbert and Sullivan at the end was pretty good.
From that article since we are talking Trumplestiltskin the CheetosRaper endorsing his KorruptoKidz:
There’s no evidence that Joe Biden used his power inappropriately or took action to benefit his relatives with respect to these ventures. These entanglements could pose problems for Democrats as they seek to draw a contrast with President Donald Trump, who they accuse of corruption for mixing politics with his own family’s business ventures.
I left the rest in there since this is from 2019 and pre-Traitor Sedition. I do not like the Bidens anymore than the Kennedys or Clinton’s but these do not compare.
We’re not talking about Joe?
“Hunter Biden and his uncle literally ran a mutual fund that he sold to investors as giving access to Joe. The FBI shut it down.”
But you were. That was you. You brought up Joe Biden. Which again, where is the evidence for that? Because your article has zero evidence for actual “access” being sold and granted.
The other person quoted your article saying that there was no evidence Joe Biden used his position to benefit any of his family’s business dealings. Even if Hunter was going around saying “do you know who my dad is”, if Joe Biden didn’t have anything to do with it, it didn’t do anything. We don’t throw people in jail for name dropping.
Dollar per dollar, what the trumps did is literally worse. They literally made billions off of foreign deals, meanwhile hunter funneled how much? Math is math.
So since it was tens of millions instead I should just… not care?
I would say it’s worse in Trump’s case because Ivanka and Jared had been working for the white house. Jared also had security clearance which he never should have had.
When Hunter works for the government or runs from office, then I’ll care. Right now he’s just a private citizen and he doesn’t seem to have any influence in his father’s job.
This isn’t strictly true, but even if it were, do you see anyone on the democratic side opening investigations into the Trump kids doing this?
Tjey should at least investigate jared and Ivanka in the white house and their business dealings. Like how he got a bailout on his tower and the $2 bill from the Saudis. Did Jared trade our secrets and security for $2 billion?
I mean… they should
No, and why aren’t they?
It’s bad in the sense that I wouldn’t want to hang out with someone who did it, but there’s nothing illegal in using your famous parent to get a leg up in your own dealings.
It makes you seem like a spoiled trust fund kiddy, but last time I checked, being obnoxious isn’t actually a crime.
The point being made isn’t that it’s OK for Hunter but bad for the Trump kids, it’s that its being made out as a conspiracy and crime for Hunter by republicans, whereas those same Republicans had no issue whatsoever with the Trump kids doing it (and continuing to do it today)
I think if either party wants to be taken seriously, they should start by looking within their own party and prove that nobody is above the law.
Trumps, Bidens I don’t care. But instead of attacking your political opponent’s family, why not show the world what you stand for yourself by persecuting those within your own party.
“Lead by example”