• MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world
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    No matter how shitty you think Biden’s response has been, it is absolutely certain that Trump’s response will be far, far worse.

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      If you have to feel good about your actions by comparing them to Trump, that’s a low low bar and something is definitely wrong with you.

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        Starvation in a concentration camp of an entire population is the most “Netanyahu” thing imaginable. Yet it’s Netanyahu doing it.

        The current state of affairs for Palestinians at the hands of the Israeli government is grim. As grim as things are, they would be substantially worse with Trump in Power.

        Are diplomatic efforts to stop the violence a bit anemic? Yes. There would be no such efforts from Trump.

        Effectively, the more influential you are with your premise, the more Palestinians will suffer.

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          There’s an entire israeli cabinet screaming for the extermination of all Arabs.

          And Biden gets on his knees and bypasses Congress to give that cabinet weapons.

          This is not a Netanyahu problem. Netanyahu is just the spoilt child raised by Biden who knows there will not be any punishment for his crimes.

          Every supposed red line Biden set has been broken and there have been zero consequences. In fact Biden wants to give them 17 billion dollars for doing such a good job Genociding Palestinians.

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                  Trump is worse than Biden

                  Is it not possible to do better than Biden?

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                    Not in a two party system like the United States have. You can only choose the less terrible option, because doing anything else is only helping the really bad choice.

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            wtf?

            netanyahu has been prime minister of israel for quite some time…
            1996 to 1999, 2009 to 2021, and currently since 2022

            now, how is he Biden’s child?

            shill

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              The problem with gaslighting and spamming a meme is that everyone has clearly seen Biden be complicit in Genocide for over 4 months.

              I know this is really inconvenient…

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                weird how you and your ilk didn’t start caring about genocide until trump got the nomination

                i’ve seen biden stand up to PUTIN and their genocide in UKRAINE, however…

                hmmm, i wonder how trump would that?

                weird how these new accounts keep popping up, just completely obsessed with attaching biden to israel!!!

                it’s pointless to respond to you shills with words, so get the memes

                p.s. think about how the sum total of your life right now, is making it hard for people to have discussions about things, such as the Palestinian genocide… which trump would certainly be worse about. (and yes Netanyahu wants him to win)

                you’re using a genocide that’s been going on for 70 years as a political tool for trump…
                you, yourself, are in fact, a huge part of the problem. you and people like you, trying to politicize a foreign genocide, are a big part of the reason it continues…
                therefore, you are pro genocide and you’ll never be able to wash that off…
                this will haunt you for the rest of your life

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                  Trump was the candidate for the last four years.

                  You might have noticed that Biden recently started being complicit in Genocide. Mhhh when was that again. Four months ago🤔

                  Crazy, all these Russian anti genocide “bots” popping up when a genocide is happening.

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          It is amazing how these people so against “genocide” seem to keep forgiving Netanyahu isn’t it? No he’s in nowhere responsible nor is Trump who helped to prop Netanyahu up. It’s amazing that isn’t it?

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            Netanyahu and Israel would not be functional if we cut off support, let alone if we openly opposed them

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              I guess history just started this last year huh? Amazing that isn’t it? Nothing before the election year matters. So terribly convenient that.

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          I’m getting scammed pretty hard I think I’ll go work for israel’s Hasbara department soon. Any indications on the pay?

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            actually that’s direct evidence that you’re wrong, and a terrible person:

            “not participating in [Israel Defense Forces] target development.”

            “I’ve directed my team to share intelligence and deploy additional experts from across the United States government to consult with and advise the Israeli counterparts on hostage recovery efforts,”

            “expert say probably” isn’t actually direct evidence, shill

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              Ya almost made it to

              But several weeks later, on November 21, the U.S. Air Force issued deployment guidelines for officers, including intelligence engagement officers, headed to Israel. Experts say that a team of targeting officers like this would be used to provide satellite intelligence to the Israelis for the purpose of offensive targeting.

              “They’re probably targeting people, targeting officers,” Lawrence Cline, who served as an intelligence engagement officer in Iraq before retirement, told The Intercept. Targeting intelligence refers to the identification and characterization of enemy activities including missile and artillery launches, location of leadership and command and control centers, and key facilities. “What I can see is we’ve got a lot of global assets in terms of satellites and the like and the Israelis have a lot in terms of more localized radar coverage.

              The Biden administration has gone to great lengths to conceal the nature of its support for the Israeli military. The Pentagon quietly tapped a so-called Tiger Team to facilitate weapons assistance to Israel, as The Intercept has previously reported. The administration has also declined to reveal which weapons systems it’s providing Israel and at which quantities, insisting that the secrecy is necessary for security reasons.

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                i read it, dipshit

                “experts say… probably”, is not direct evidence, you fascist genocide manipulators

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                  The US did not voluntarily mention that they were flying drones above Gaza either until someone noticed it.

                  Now the fact they sent targeting officers does not indicate they are doing search and rescue.

                  Let’s hope you manage to put two and two together. Maybe they’re going to find the WMD’s in Iraq who knows. America would never lie about doing war crimes right?

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                    while i do, absolutely trust everything the united states government and military says, as you’re implying… while i do absolutely 100% believe everything they said…

                    if i were to slightly doubt it, which i don’t and obviously i still believe there were WMD’s… i would still definitely send targeting intelligence in order to determine hostage locations and threats to people freeing the hostages…
                    i mean, you’re not going to “free the hostages” without fighting right?

                    now kindly fuck off, magat