The Supreme Courtā€™s decision to hear Donald Trumpā€™s claim that he should be shielded from criminal prosecution keeps the justices at the center of election-year controversy for several more months and means any verdict on Trumpā€™s alleged subversion of the 2020 vote will not come before summer.

The countryā€™s highest court wants the final word on the former presidentā€™s assertion of immunity, even if it may ultimately affirm a comprehensive ruling of the lower federal court that rejected Trumpā€™s sweeping claim.

For Trump, Wednesdayā€™s order amounts to another win from the justice system he routinely attacks. The justicesā€™ intervention in the case, Trump v. United States, also marks another milestone in the fraught relationship between the court and the former president.

Cases related to his policies and his personal dealings consistently roiled the justices behind the scenes. At the same time, Trump, who appointed three of the nine justices, significantly influenced the courtā€™s lurch to the right, most notably its 2022 reversal of nearly a half century of abortion rights and reproductive freedom.

  • Zombiepirate@lemmy.world
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    The question isnā€™t novel though.

    The foundation of the Constitution (and any legitimate constitutional government) is that the law applies to everyone, even the executive.

    This question of presidential immunity was answered in 1788 with an emphatic ā€œno.ā€ There was no reason for them to take this case other than to delay the ruling.

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      If the question isnā€™t novel then please cite Supreme Court cases that have dealt with the question of executive immunity from criminal cases or just do what seems to be impossible on the internet: admit youā€™re wrong.

      No one is denying that this may be an open-and-shut case but the Supreme Court has never taken up the question soā€¦. itā€™s novel.

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        If the question isnā€™t novel then please cite Supreme Court cases that have dealt with the question of executive immunity from criminal cases

        United States v. Nixon (1974): This landmark decision addressed whether President Richard Nixon could claim executive privilege to avoid turning over tape recordings in the Watergate scandal. The Supreme Court ruled unanimously that while the president enjoys a qualified immunity from judicial process under certain circumstances, this immunity is not absolute. The Court held that the need for evidence in a trial outweighed the presidentā€™s claim of executive privilege, leading to Nixonā€™s resignation.

        I assume youā€™re going to admit that you were wrong now? Or is that impossible on the Internet?

        Please explain why the president would need to provide evidence for a trial that was unconstitutional.

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            Please explain why the president would need to provide evidence for a trial that was unconstitutional.

            My reply was three sentences long. Please try not to get distracted, this will be on the test.

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            Hmmm I wonder.

            Could it be because, as I said, this ruling cites multiple supreme court cases in context? That it provides you exactly what you asked for if youā€™d simply read it?

            Nah, that canā€™t be it. Guess itā€™ll remain a mystery.