A classic. So many questions arise from this simple text+image post:
- Is this person’s child named really “Strairdrac The Netherwatcher”?
- Is Strairdrac even human?
- Why does Strairdrac want to teach crabs how to read?
- Why is it considered forbidden knowledge?
- What other knowledge is forbidden?
We will never have all the answers. Still, the questions are themselves a sort of answer.
to know all the answers is… forbidden knowledge
- Strairdrac is three crabs in a trenchcoat, now teaching others of his kind how to blend in with humans
Crab people
Crab people
Taste like Crab, walk like people
!!!
the child is… strange.
we’ve made repeated efforts to contact the Florida Guard, the Florida Attorney General, the Governor!
Random Asshat: “the Florida Guard! that we be! please gaze upon my curdled milks and slimy vegetables!”
I get the “haha” of this particular search getting reported on…but I think that this sort of surveillance is definitely stepping into creepy territory that will end up doing more harm than good.
There were definitely web searches I performed about topics back when I was younger that I would never want my parents to know. When you live in an oppressive household where you are taught never to think outside of the box or be anything your parents don’t want you to be, having the internet available is supposed to be a path to liberation.
If they want to set up filters that block certain results, fine. But tattling is just unethical, especially if the child does not know their search history is being monitored by their parents.
if only there was a Black mirror episode about the dangers of being an overbearing parent.
The thing is, parents get incredibly conflicted messages about this. When a child DOES end up looking at something bad parents get all the blame for not supervising and controlling their child and get called abusive. If they supervise and control their child they get called helicopter parents or abusive as well.
And it’s not only regarding the internet. When parents let their children roam, for example, the neighborhood and something bad happens, the parents get the blame and called abusive for letting their child roam the neighborhood. If they control outdoors time for they child, they are abusive again.
It literally doesn’t matter what you do as a parent, a lot of people will call you a bad parent or an abuser for it. I believe it is one reason why some people don’t want to have children at all. It’s basically an impossible task.
When a child DOES end up looking at something bad parents get all the blame for not supervising and controlling their child and get called abusive
Not everywhere. This is typical for the US.
To be honest, Black mirror is not a prophecy. It merely is a speculation.
it is not a speculation nor a prophecy lol, it’s stories exploring the human condition with technology as the driver of the story
It could not “explore”. It’s a fiction, it fantasizes.
Merriam-Webster definition for “explore” 1a:
to investigate, study, or analyze : look into
➡️sometimes used with indirect questionsThis definition makes no distinction between factual and speculative, and in fact invites speculative use with the second point. Additionally, there’s a long history of using the word “explore” in this exact type of situation.
Anyway, the point is, don’t be such a wet blanket, plz.
I just don’t think some fiction is reliable source of information.
And I can’t see on definition sense you are implying. You’re overstretching it.
it’s unwise to take literary advice from someone that uses words without taking the time to learn their definition
This sort of oppressive situation is my childhood in a nutshell. And you’re right, it’s entirely unethical, and in combination with other factors can be used as a factor in psychological abuse. I know I at least am traumatized from it, and surveillance was definitely one of many signifigant factors.
People really underestimate the effects constant surveillance has on a kid.
Exactly. Kids grown in high volume of surveillance (e.g. my nieces) end up being more aggressive towards rules, which creates people who think rules are there to be broken.
It’s perfect conditioning to accept authoritarian rule, and constant surveillance as normal.
haha
Stop spying on your kid… Jesus.
Even worse using kaspersky…
How?
Kaspersky is part of Big C and actively tries to suppress knowledge of Rust.
Invasive reports of literally everything. Making it way too easy to control your child to the point of psychical damage, and with some parents a tool for abuse.
Kids need access to the internet at a super young age these days for school. If you don’t have some sort of filter in place when they are in single digits or tweens you are just negligent. The internet has some dark corners.
I don’t mind just filters, but reporting it to the parent doesn’t sit right with me. It probably depends on the parent though
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Teach them the old ways of flash games (or html5 nowadays) and they will have no time for drugs.
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Better yet, don’t let them use the internet.
Good luck with that. And also spying is the best way to lose your kid’s trust.
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‘Monitoring’ if anything is worse. After puberty a human needs some degree of privacy and autonomy. By all means use blockers, but reading their every google search, and especially making them aware of that, is only hurtful.
monitor*
My parents used this as part of their obsessive-control emotional / psychological abuse. Mostly to try to indoctrinate me into their cult, and their extremist right-wing ideology. There is a place for filters, and even search reports - but search reports ought to end around 14 years, and by 16 there needs to be some form of legal recognition of privacy rights as a human being for cases of isolating abuse as a part of indoctrination. P*rn blockers etc on the router are fine though, the network legally belongs to the parents. But human being, at least after puberty, requires privacy for proper psychological development. Complete surveillance after that time is psychologically and emotionally harmful to both the child and the relationship.
I’m reminiscing the days in school where we’d use proxy sites to get around the school blocklist/monitoring to play dolphin olympics
I remember busting out an ssh tunnel and blowing everyone’s mind
Reduce it gradually to 0 until 16.
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If there’s a reliable way to only be alerted to specific activity, then the parents aren’t really actively spying, in the sense that the kids still have privacy when they aren’t transgressing into prohibited space. As long as that prohibited space is reasonable (huge debate possible there of course) and the kids know about the restrictions. imo
this post is about a child being blocked then reported to their parents for ‘teaching crabs to read’
I don’t think you can defend it as a reasonable prohibited spaceTrue. But the comment I was replying to was referencing the monitoring itself, not the outcome.
When I was a kid (way too many years ago) my parents gave up trying to restrict my Internet usage because no matter what they did I could easily get around it. I knew more about networking than they did. Then I grew up to become an IT administrator.
The question is,will you be able to restrict YOUR kids?
See instead of blacklisting websites you whitelist instead
Dad creating a small business class network with DPI at home to find out if the kids do something bad. :p
I don’t have any kids yet (I’m 32) but I do have a small business class network. 😂
Don’t restrict but rather educate and guide them. I would probably fail but hey: I tried.
Probably not younger generations are usually smarter than the older one.
I dunno… A lot of the newer gens didn’t have to tinker with everything to get it to work so they’re less familiar with the ins and outs of stuff. Not to say they all are because it’s silly to generalize that many people but many of them grew up with this stuff. Just like how I couldn’t tell you how a TV works or fix one but I’ve built all my own pcs. That happened naturally because I had to learn it early on to have a computer. That being said they definitely seem to be developing a unique skill set for navigating the internet and social media as a whole. I’ve noticed they’re a lot less likely to trust a generic Google search or various articles online. I guess when you’re raised around bullshit you’re gonna end up more critical of it. This is mostly about gen z of course and maybe younger millennials. Gen alpha is feral and weird we should all be worried lmao
This is very true. We had to fix all the shit happens to our systems and stuff. But now, they have perfected by implementing this restrictive environments like mac os, chrome os, and stuff like this (windows is trying to implement same thing these days too). So, their devices don’t break. They don’t have to learn how to fix that.
Nowadays kids don’t even understand basic file structure, lmao.
Gen alpha is weird and feral and fucking great. I hope I see what madness the bring to this world.
If they were really applying critical thinking to bullshit, mainstream media wouldn’t be forced to literally put together entire departments dedicated to fighting fake news.
I think you misunderstand the reason they need to fight fake news. It’s for the boomers. Kids these days are very media literate and skeptical of everything. It’s really all the boomers who are falling for misinformation and spreading it on Facebook.
The fresh college grads getting hired at my work imply this is becoming an inaccurate generalization. Particularly in regards to tech. We may be reaching the brain’s natural knowledge saturation point, and with so much knowledge available, there’s a natural tendency towards a wide but shallow pool.
Also the fact that unless we have some very notable breakthroughs the tech adults of now grew up with will probably be relatively similar to those kids born now will grow up with.
We saw massive technological growth over the last 70 years especially for computer and to illustrate my point im gonna note when my mother, grandmother, and myself were born and note the standard computers available.
Me(1999) Computers were similar enough to modern ones that there isnt much to note outside of processing power and startup, sure theres clear differences but if you know how to operate windows 98 you can probably figure out windows 10 with ease.
My mother(1979) Congrats you have the apple II computer, some weird texas Instruments computers, and whatever IBM is making. The commadore 64 will be released in three years. Almost all the knowledge is irrelevent for these computers because between the internet and the march of progress not much is gonna be recognizable.
My grandmother (1956) Computers are the size of rooms and their consoles resemble radar equipment more than anything else probably cause it is old radar equipment. Colored television is a luzury item and the average person thinks a computer is someone good at mathmatics.
My mom asked my uncle to restric access.
I researched how to unblock it during my time :)
Was seemingly IP-based and the router probably just created an DHCP reservation for my device. Changing IP to static and done. They should do it via MAC. And even that is useless nowadays.Edit: Also work in IT now.
Yeah, with MAC randomization being readily available on pretty much any device now it is also pretty useless.
I gave my kids completely open internet access and just chose to talk with them on what they might encounter. If I’d locked their devices, they’d just went online at a friend’s place.
Yeah, I don’t have any kids yet, but if I did I would do the same.
I didn’t restrict my kids Internet access, but I did tell them that even though I’m not tracking everything they’re doing online, the ISP, the school, upstream providers, search engines, social medias, advertisers, and pretty much everyone else will be.
And this is why kids should grow up with increasingly restrictive parental control software. It’s educational.
I’m not reading you CAN’T, but filtering software is FAR better than the shit we got around. If you lock your bootloader there isn’t much you’re going to be able to do except use other devices available to you.
Dudes remove that spyware from your Networks omg
Stolen (fair use) from https://rustacean.net
Illegal crab learning, alerting the authorities
Did we learn nothing from The Call of C’thulu?
Did we learn nothing from the lesson of Ed Gruberman?
I should hope so. You want the crabs taking over?
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Yes and it also makes the child Strairdrac the Netherwatcher.
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If your kid isn’t looking up forbidden knowledge you failed as a parent.
“Straidrac The Netherwatcher” is quite a curios kind
I had less problems with my childs long before internet
Too late.
CRAB PEOPLE CRAB PEOPLE!
Forbidden knowledge. Oooh.
computer spyware taught me not to trust computers, my parents, or corporations
it also taught me how to format drives and reinstall operating systemsIs this a joke about rust?
