New rail routes will help throngs of tourists get around the country in a sustainable way
  • Zeth0s@lemmy.world
    5·
    1 year ago

    Yes, western and east Europe are very well defined actually. There was a popular wall back in the days in Berlin to clearly symbolize the division.

    Italy is west Europe, and it has never been in the eastern block. It was western Europe even before. It had the capital of western Europe at the time of the late roman empire

    • jochem@lemmy.ml
      2·
      1 year ago

      I (and many people around me) group Italy under southern Europe. Just like Spain, Portugal and Greece.

      Western Europe for me is roughly France, Benelux, Germany, Austria and Switzerland. Northern Europe is Scandinavia and Finland.

      I’m sure others have a different view on this.

      • Zeth0s@lemmy.world
        1·
        1 year ago

        Where are you from, out of curiosity?

        Spain and Portugal are definitely western than all countries you listed.

        Italy is as west as Germany if you check the maps.

        Italy and Spain are both south Europe and western Europe.

        Western and eastern Europe is a division with ancient roots that goes back to roman empire.

        South and north is more geographical to separate “latin” countries from Nordic countries.

        France is actually borderline, half southern, half central.

        Germany, Austria, switzerland are usually referred as central Europe

        • jochem@lemmy.ml
          11·
          1 year ago

          The Netherlands.

          I see it more as a political and economic devide, hence grouping the German speaking countries also with the western countries.

          Southern countries are seen as having a poorer economy, hence not being part of the western countries. The northern ones could be part of the western group, but for some reason they also don’t mind being their own corner.