It will be open source, end to end encrypted using Signal’s double ratchet encryption protocol, and he plans to make it easy for fediverse platforms to integrate it. The beta will release later this month.
He’s also the creator of https://fedidb.org btw
While I doubt I could get my friends and family on yet ANOTHER messaging app in the year of our lord 2023.
Sup. Is a fucking brilliant name.
Could be a fantastic way to replace dm, that’s my first thought.
I remember idly wondering how DMs worked in Lemmy, and I was kinda shocked when I realized they aren’t secure.
“secure” is relative. They may not be e2e encrypted, but they are still encrypted via TLS, like any HTTPS traffic. It’s the same encryption used for online banking. If you care about your instance admin being able to read your messages, you should use Signal or a Matrix client though.
But remember that only a few years ago, almost nobody used e2e encryption, and it wasn’t much of an issue.
I personally hate the name, but only because I had a roommate in college who would start every conversation with “sup.”
On text messages, IMs, in person, you name it. It really started to get under my skin.
But I hope the software is good.
sup.
Yep. That’s what he’d do. So basically he’d always want you to start the conversation.
No man, you’re just supposed to say “Sup.” back to them and then repeat ad nauseum.
After a few sups, the least dominate of the two has to say “nunmuch chu?”
So, you’re playing a little Playstation, huh? That’s whack. Playstation is whack. 'Sup with the whack Playstation, 'sup?
(what’)SUP 🤪
I might know that guy lol
I think it will integrate with the existing fediverse
Double rachet encryption protocol is also rather dope
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He’s a madman
I wonder if he is friends with the guy who runs calibre and kitty terminal. I read somewhere that he was seriously planning to single-handedly maintain python 2 after it was EOLed because it was so integral to calibre. But was eventually talked into transitioning to python 3. The idea of that is totally nuts; the guy is a machine.
I’ve been following Daniel since he started working on Pixelfed and dude’s a beast. His code and skill improved astronomically and he just doesn’t stop. Great example of how “doing it” is best way to learn anything software related.
Desktop fscking client, please. Not electron based would be nice, yes? QT is good.
ICQ-style or old Skype-style user directory would be wonderful too. VoIP is not something I’d care about, file transfers are.
This is cool.
Chill, you’re not the only one here.
VoIP in a mainstream messenger is something that most people use nowadays to avoid calling people from their SIM cards which costs them much.
Video calling too is something I personally use too especially on iMessage or Telegram.
I’m a software engineer, I appreciate some old school things that work perfectly well like ICQ or Vim or emacs or working only with shortcuts. But you know what’s also a shortcut? Not having to use 50 different messengers just because this one doesn’t have VoIP and I can’t bring my friends or my mom here but I can bring only my nerd friends”.
This is all business and target audience oriented. You are not the only target audience out there and especially when you don’t demand from a messenger to be able to have VoIP. Even Instagram has VoIP these days. A photo-video-media sharing app. Let alone a messenger.
Chill, you’re not the only one here.
We don’t take kindly to people who think they’re the only one here.
I talked about various audiences not just myself. The person I replied to talked as if the app was made for him explicitly. “VoIP is not something I’d care about, file transfers are” like this kind of talking is like bruh, the app is not made only for you.
yeah, the app is made for you and him. So doing the math we have a -1 “VoIP is not something I’d care about” and a +1 “Video calling too is something I personally use…” which results in 0% significance. So let’s just talk, voice our opinions, and chill.
No, the app is made for everybody who wants to use a messenger. Not just you and him. It’s supposed to be under the standards of the feddiverse.
The comments here are not a poll. Providing especially personal comments about a nerdy user like me and the guy I replied about “I would like it like ICQ” and such shit, would not help the creator make a good choice. Most people nowadays, especially zoomers, dont even know what ICQ is or how it works or how to even login to it. Most people, proven by ehm … the success of messenger, discord, whatsapp, telegram, viber, signal everything … want a messenger that provides what the mainstream messenger wants with most of the features that everybody provides and are mainstream used while having ease of access.
I could say the same with the guy I replied to. Again, I’m a software engineer with nerdy-influences towards Vim, Arch, barebones are much as I can, shortcuts only, i3wm, etc etc. But I’m also a UX/UI designer after-work for my own projects and I try to get in the shoes of the average user. Do you think the average user would want i3wm for their own window manager? Or Linux? Or Matrix with its own messy half-baked two-step verification? There’s UX/UI department for a reason. There’s no such thing as “you and me”, there’s “this audience and this audience”. And the nerd audience is a very small one.
We should try to help the creator. Not misguide him. Again, the comments are not a poll, they’re supposed to help to make a constructive conversation. And when you talk as if the app is made only about yourself, you’re not really helping.
I wonder, what 'works with the fediverse ’ could mean for a messenger and what could be features not already implemented by different messengers, like elements or the very signal.
Your link,
https://mastodon.social/@dansup/110836811082599292%20sup.%20is%20an%20open%20source%20encrypted%20fediverse%20instant%20messenger,%20similar%20to%20whatsapp,%20made%20by%20pixelfed.%20%20The%20beta%20will%20be%20launching%20later%20this%20month,%20and%20btw%20most%20fediverse%20accounts%20will%20work,%20not%20just%20Pixelfed%20%F0%9F%98%89is broken. I think you accidentally copied the body text as well. Cleaning up the link results in https://mastodon.social/@dansup/110836811082599292, which works fine.Thanks, fixed.
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Great news that it will work across the fediverse. I’d love to try pixefed, but its got too much of a walled garden thing going on since nobody I know uses it.
I just uninstalled Pixelfed. Mostly because the app is absolutely garbage on Android, and the developer made it look like an iOS app.
The app is just so dead. I’m happy to revisit later, but as for now I’ll stick with posting my stuff on Mastodon and Lemmy.
Sadly it doesn’t look so much like an iOS app, more like a bad Instagram clone 😕
Honestly, I don’t hate that Idea much bcoz I think it will help users switching from IG to PixelFed.
I’m not a fan of Pixelfed, or instaclones. But the idea of a messenger e2ee that works with all the fedi is such a awesome idea.
Why are you not a fan? I’m genuinely curious, as I’m vaguely evaluating such software.
Not OP but personally I just don’t like picture centric social media. Just not my thing.
this rocks actually. I’ve kinda wanted this for a while
AP isn’t really meant for real-time communication
I think AP will just be used as account authentication/creation with Signal software as the backend, but this is speculation.
so this is basically fb messenger but it works with twitter, YouTube and reddit (their federated alternatives mastodon peertube lemmy) and is e2ee!
super cool!
I don’t think this could convince the rest of the family to switch off Line, but I’m pulling for it.
switch off Line
I don’t think it would work if it was offline, would it? /s
I want this at the ActivityPub level, for direct/group messaging at least.
I’m very excited for this too. The fact that the majority of the comments are not “ewww who whants ANOTHER chat client” really shows how much demand there is for something like that in this crowded space.
Ok but why
Theres reasons to pm stuff. Some used it on reddit for stuff like exchanging adresses for trading tea, sweets, etc.
There are already hundreds of ways to PM stuff. Why do we need another?
I don’t want to give strangers my personal cell, discord, twittter, whatever handle here publicly. If there is a need to exchange secret informatiom, how will you take this convo elsewhere?
How is it that your Matrix handle is “personal” but your Sup. handle is not?
I don’t have matrix?
Anyway: Platform specific handle being “public” is not a problem. What is a problem (to me) is the association with other platforms I am on. No one besides those that actually should know it (hence PM), need to know it.
Do I reuse my username on many platforms? Sure do.
Do I need to tell you? Nope brother!Also: Why should I take my conversation from here to exchange confidential information than just letting it stay here?
I don’t have matrix?
My point, exactly.
Why should I take my conversation from here to exchange confidential information than just letting it stay here?
I’ve already answered that.
I just saw this on Mastodon and was about to post it here. 😄
Pretty cool idea. Though I’m not looking forward to trying to convince my friends to switch to yet another new platform. 😂
