• VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    For someone who likes acting clever you sure did miss a lot of very obvious things in your speech.

    There are many ways of generating electricity and most are fairly easy to establish if you know how. A petrol engine requires fuel that is pretty difficult to make and denatures fairly rapidly, they can’t run on ethanol or anything easy to make so well rapidly behind useless. Diesel lasts slightly longer and biofuels will work fairly well but take a lot of effort compared to electrical generation.

    There is no doubt if you had an electric car after society collapsed you’d be far better off longterm. Especially as many areas are already solar and wind powered and would still have power.

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      9 months ago

      Ah so your apocalypse vehicle solution requires setting up a bunch of infrastructure (build your own wind turbine? Dam? Solar array? Molten salt nuclear reactor?) while everyone is running around killing everyone else for food and water, as opposed to having a decent sized stockpile of petrol/gasoline with fuel preservative or diesel that could be easily and inconspicuous stored in a garage or even apartment.

      You are also at least /plausibly/, though not /likely/ to be able to find some gasoline or diesel somewhere in an apocalypse scenario.

      You are not likely to find a working power grid in an apocalypse scenario, not until years or decades later after the survivors of the initial phase of mass panic, starvation and murder have begun to meaningfully reestablish something resembling the previous societies.

      And you kind of have to survive this initial phase for the ‘long run investment’ angle to make any sense.

      Please, unironically please tell me what areas in the US are 100% powered by solar or wind. I am fairly certain there are none, excepting possibly some Tribal Lands (theyre not going to let you in) or basically communes in the middle of nowhere (they are also not going to let you in).

      I’m from WA originally and to the best of my ability to research, WA is one of if not the most renewably powered states in the country, getting around 2/3 of its power from dams and other renewable sources.

      I genuinely have no idea what youre talking about when you say there are areas of the US that are entirely solar and wind powered. Electrical grids are part of huge interconnected networks and they do not neatly subdivide into zones that are and are not totally renewably powered.

      Sure, maybe a certain neighborhood has houses covered in solar panels. Thats great! But what that realistically ends up as is a situation where that neighborhood has a good deal less draw during the day, but still relies on a dam or coal plant or wind turbines somewhere to fill up the rest of the draw, and then all of that draw at night.

      None of that load balancing happens in an apocalypse scenario. The grid stops working. No more power to cover the rest of that draw. You can /maybe/ run the AC/Heat on low all day, /or/ your refrigerator in your solar house, but plug in a hair dryer or your PC or EV and drain your batteries quite rapidly, now your refrigerated/frozen food thaws and goes bad and/or you are either much more warm or cold than youre used to.

      As previously established, youre gonna need several houses covered in solar panels all wired together, by you, CyberTruck owner, likely not a trained electrician capable of manipulating a portion of the neighborhood into a personal solar network battery/inverter system, while there are roving, likely armed mobs and small groups or even individuals desperate for anything they think valuable, edible or drinkable.

      You say there are ways of generating electricity as if you can set up a micro electrical turbine in a stream that will charge a CyberTruck or other EV at rates higher than a solid month to get a full charge, or as if you have a somehow human safe RTG in your home, or have figured out how to harness the casimir effect to generate free energy… maybe you have a personal geothermal power generator?

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        9 months ago

        I don’t know if you’re being purposely weird about this but whatever, I’ve watched hundreds of hours of YouTube with people doing all the things you seem to think are impossible.

        Honestly I’m fine with you having the worst possible vehicle so I’m not really going to try and convince you further.

        The dumbest thing you said is load balancing, like it matters if you can change your vehicle in ai night. Like going by your ideas you seem to think you think you’re going to be commuting or something.