• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
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    8 months ago

    From what I’ve read, Avdevka was the most heavily fortified position Ukraine had in Donbass. Now that it’s fallen there’s no comparable position to fall back to. So, we might end up seeing significant Russian advances in the near future.

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        8 months ago

        I’m a little more conservative in my expectations, at least for the time being, but i do think that the fighting capacity of the AFU has become even more degraded as a result of this battle. Every time they go through a meat grinder like this they lose a big chunk of their best soldiers and equipment which they cannot replace.

        Imo more important than the loss of one fortified area is that this will have a similar effect as Bakhmut did, to weaken their capabilities overall. Now increasingly we see them struggle to defend the entire line of contact. They will pull resources from one place to defend another and inevitably the Russians will break through somewhere.

        It is reasonable to expect that eventually a tipping point of collapse will be reached but it is impossible to predict when that is.

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            7 months ago

            I think Russia invaded to keep Ukraine out of NATO, protect ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine, and probably at least a bit because a short, victorious war is usually good for those in power.

            If these were their goals, they probably want a rump Ukraine with a friendly government instead of directly ruling a bunch of hostile people in the western part of the country.

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              7 months ago

              Fair enough, i also think they won’t annex entire Ukraine, but for example Kharkov and Odessa and coast up to Moldova is also full of the Russian speaking population that protested against Maidan and always voted nearly same as Donbas - and annexation of those parts would be sensible for strategic, economic and political reasons.

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      8 months ago

      Yes, liberated indeed. For those of us who were paying attention before 2022, Ukrainian Nazis have been bombing civilians in the Donbass region since 2014. This has been very well documented, there are pictures and names of these children and over 1,000 of them were murdered.

      Now you, presumably someone who was fed lies by the West (since you placed liberated in quotes, you obviously disagree but didn’t further elaborate), will probably act in two ways:

      1. This is new information to you. You have an opportunity to correct your viewpoint based on this new information and become informed. You can learn even more information from other comrades on here who have boundless patience in educating, as well as more sources if you’re interested in expanding your understanding of the world beyond whatever the West tells you to believe.

      Or,

      1. You ignore everything I’ve said, you double down on your ignorance, you continue to believe Western lies and even insult me. You’ll continue to believe the cartoonish lies about Russia and Putin, and nothing will change.

      I’m hoping for the former but I’m expecting the latter. This is your Matrix moment, the choice is yours.

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        8 months ago

        According to factcheck.org, Putin’s statements about neonazis are baseless propaganda. https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/the-facts-on-de-nazifying-ukraine/

        According to mediabiasfactcheck, factcheck is incredibly high in factual reporting and very limited in its bias https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/factcheck/

        Are both mediabiasfactcheck.com and factcheck.org liberal propaganda? I’ve always found these sources to be incredibly reliable whenever I go through the effort of double checking them. What sources do you prefer over them if you think these are incredibly flawed, biased sources? Can you give links to the “extremely well documented” bombing of children by neonazis in Ukraine?

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          8 months ago

          You could read the UN report. Or you can search the publications like the guardian or the BBC and other reputable sources for ‘Ukraine’, ‘Neonazis’, and ‘Azov’ but it have to put the dates in for 2014–2021 and you’ll still have to scroll to find the sources. Google will be practically useless. Duckduckgo might be slightly better. The imperialists did a decent job of scrubbing the internet but it’s all still out there, often on the same websites and by the same publications that have been whitewashing Ukraine since a couple of months before Russia invaded.

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        7 months ago

        You wrote a whole lot of shit when all you had to do was just state your preference for authoritarianism.

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          7 months ago

          You tried to write a snappy comeback but you could have learned something. Now you look even more goofy especially with that “authoritarianism” shit, which means nothing in the real world lmao

          Is the UN report on the Nazis in Ukraine authoritarianism too? Fuck outta here dipshit 💀