• bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net
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    8 months ago

    The specific Zionists you are accusing of genocide are themselves Jews, specifically Jews who are the children and grandchildren of holocaust survivors.

    Israel didn’t declare war on Oct. 7. Hamas did.

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      8 months ago

      The war didn’t start on October 7th though, it started when Zionist terrorists started settling in Palestine and committing atrocities against the local Palestinians and the British. If we could pick and choose when to start history, one could argue that the holocaust was justified because everything was peaceful until the Warsaw ghetto uprising, and just conveniently ignore why the Warsaw ghetto existed in the first place.

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      8 months ago

      I would say the war started when Jewish settlers started purchasing farms and refused to hire anyone but Jews. It ripped any possibility of survival from the people who traditionally worked those farms. It forced their only hope to be fighting back.

      For a time both Jews and Arabs lived together peacefully, and the first Kibbutz seemed to want to work together and free the workers from the oppression of the traditional landowners. Once they started only hiring Jews there was no going back. This was the end of peace, and it was started by the Jewish settlers. Oct 7th 2023 is only a small moment in a much larger conflict.

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          8 months ago

          No, they are responsible for what they did and Israel is responsible for what they did. What Hamas did was in a context that you’re ignoring. If you’re taken prisoner by someone and trapped in their basement, do you think it’s reasonable to kill them to get out? Sometimes extreme actions are done in a context that makes them more reasonable, and ignoring that context removes any reasonable discussion that can be had. Hamas fought back against an oppressor with a lot more power. It’s not my place to say what actions they are allowed to take.

          You’re trying to remove any culpability from Israel though by just saying “the war is on Hamas”, which isn’t true nor is it an excuse.