• nutomic@lemmy.ml
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    4 years ago

    “Tankism” isnt a thing, do you mean Marxism-Leninism? In general, you can criticise anything you want, as long as it is based on facts and not on baseless insulting.

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      4 years ago

      “Tankism” from my understanding is an umbrella term for various forms of authoritarianism. Marxism-Leninism is definitely one of those, and so is trotskyism and maoism.

      Marxism has strong overlap with “tankism” but the two groups are not equivalent, as there’s a (growing?) number of anti-authoritarian marxists.

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          Well, that text…have you ever tried to read critiques to such? If so, why do you come do a different conclusion, then that Engels renders the term authority useless? In his definition, authority is is justified because it can mean everything. Mutual aid is authority, plants living in symbioses is authority, plants producing oxygen is authority over humans…sure, you can use that definition, but by doing so you simply sneak around a critique against authority by stating it’s inevitable, so the issue can’t be authority itself.

          Serious question: which critiques of authority have your read, to which you disagree to such a great amount, that you feel compelled to go with Engels analysis here, that is in short: everything is authority, and because it is inevitable to exist, it invalidates the critique against, without actually engaging with the actual brought up arguments of those that critique authority.

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            4 years ago

            I did read “the conquest of bread”, but wasnt convinced at all by its suggestion that people would just spontaneously organise themselves one day, without any planning or preparation at all. And I dont see Engels as “justifying” authority, rather, authority is simply something that exists in objective reality, whether you like it or not.

            It is true that there are forms of authority which need to be fought against, such as the authority of the boss over the worker, or bourgeosie over the working class. But a certain form of authority is necessary to wage a revolution, because there will always be a bourgeous minority who opposes it.

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    4 years ago

    What’s “tankism”? There’s just been a statement about the political ideologies of devs / mods on Lemmy.

    If you just want to share a spicy meme there are other communities like /c/completeanarchy and /c/dankleft.

    Seems appropriate at this point that here you should at least put some effort into your critique and at least define if you’re talking about Marxism, ML, MLM, or some other ideology.

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      4 years ago

      I want to share analysis about their abusive practice. Starting from the Bolshevik suppression of the soviet revolution and ending with the modern form that tries to follow these footsteps.

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        4 years ago

        That seems fine. I’m just thinking it’s best to do so with some substantial analysis / critique.

        If you just start a thread with the title of “Am I allowed to criticize tankism in this forum?” and saying nothing else, it’s just going to come off as inflammatory trolling without substance. You’re not going to convince anyone that way.

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    4 years ago

    I mean the 2. rule of lemmy.ml is “Be respectful. Everyone should feel welcome here.” So just mere criticism could be read as being a violation of that rule.

    If that’s the case, I think lemmy is nothing for me.

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      You seriously can’t fathom the notion of disagreeing respectfully? Of respectful criticism? Really?