• Amerikan Pharaoh@lemmygrad.ml
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    8 months ago

    Iunno, I felt Baldur’s Gate 3 had a very strong condemnation of the hubris inherent in white men through the existence of Gale Dekarios.

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      8 months ago

      I can see that reading, but it’s undermined by … How do I do spoiler blocks?

      spoiler

      It’s not like he blows up or anything. I think in the later patch he gets an even happier ending.

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      8 months ago

      Criticising the consequences of a patriarchal white supremacist sexist society isn’t the same as condemning white men as a whole.

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        8 months ago

        When the vast majority eagerly participates in patriarchal white supremacy, that kind of takes the knees out from under your argument. Sounds a whole lot like that whole “#notallmen” horseshit to me.

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          8 months ago

          Yeah nah, I’m not saying it as an excuse for men. My point is that criticising a system where most men participate in is not the same as saying all men are inherently shit - which guys like Boogie are pretending.

        • FanonFan [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
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          8 months ago

          I was thinking something similar but I wasn’t sure how to put it into words.

          Like this has a sort of circular self-proving logic to it (not in the fallacy way, like the dialectical way) where the more these people get upset by criticisms not directly aimed at them, the more they prove that an association exists between the behavior being criticized and their identity.

          Whiteness as a floating signifier will change meaning with ebbs and flows of power and material dynamics, so it’s interesting to see these reactionary manifestations.