I understand why they did what they did and it makes me think of how db0 and other admins are saying fuck all and taking a very big liability for making and supporting a free internet and i want to say all the work you do is very much appreciated. Also shoutout to lemmy.ml admins for running a similar community on their own .

Links for supporting the db0 server and do consider donating as it is running behind on expenses.

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  • the post of tom joad@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    725·
    8 months ago

    Feels like .world is defedding from errybody. Eventually theyre gonna be like aol (or some other more recent, relevant walled garden).

    Do y’all think this “cleaning up” has to do with their META threads integration?

    • Stretch@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      313·
      8 months ago

      Do y’all think this “cleaning up” has to do with their META threads integration?

      You mean as opposed to their stated reason: DMCA?

      • the post of tom joad@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        181·
        8 months ago

        I’m talking about the broader implications of meta integration being the possible driving force behind the multiple defederations, not specifically this, the latest, which would be included as part of a larger “cleanup”.

        • Stretch@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          222·
          8 months ago

          Awesome username, BTW

          I think (as their open communications on the subject have indicated) that they prefer to keep their legal liability profile slim. In the end, no matter how many users you have in your instance, you’re still alone in that court room against the monopolies that represent content rights holders.

          From what I can tell they (at least the older admins and Ruud) seem to have no love for Meta, but they aren’t chicken little about it either. Federated or not, Meta can easily scrape Lemmy data, so if you mean that .world defederated to pretty up their image and make themselves attractive to Meta, I just don’t see the point, but also, it seems like a conspiracy theory to me.

          There’s a piece on TF about a website that closed down years ago, and has been acquitted four times of their “crimes” of linking (as opposed to hosting), and due to a new definition of “communicate” is being sued a fifth time. The sue-happy rights holders have no compunction against going back to destroy anyone they perceive at any time to have infringed “their” works. Look at Reddit, still defending users against identification for doing what? Saying their ISP was lenient about DMCA notices. To protect against that garbage, you have to be careful, and perhaps remove content you agree with to CYA.

          • NuXCOM_90PercentEnglish
            161·
            8 months ago

            Yeah. I have a lot of concerns over how much market share .world has and some of the really questionable things the admins have done (removing protections related to hate speech from their TOS, having a policy of wiping all comments of a user and accusing them of pretty heinous shit, etc).

            But I 100% support this particular action. We run VPNs and use burner emails when we pirate stuff. They don’t really have that luxury due to the nature of web hosting. So kudos to the instance owners who are willing to play with fire on our behalf but… I sure wouldn’t.

            • Stretch@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              51·
              8 months ago

              We run VPNs and use burner emails when we pirate

              Excellent and appropriate point to make. The real problem is with the deference that copyright and “IP” are given in courts around the world, and the way trade agreements force members to adopt similar stances in their legislation and prosecution. Even if IPFS can help our cause in some way, the industry will waste no time criminalizing it.

              Sigh… 46 and 2

            • Facebones@reddthat.comEnglish
              31·
              8 months ago

              .world admin definitely directly defended nazis (literal promotion of direct nazi policies and whatnot, not ‘I don’t like you so you’re nazi’)

              I linked to aforementioned content posted by a fellow community mod and politely asked if he could be removed and I got instantly banned from the whole instance.

              Like, a no would’ve sufficed 😂 just banning me from the instance definitely just makes me think you agree with it.

          • the post of tom joad@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            4·
            8 months ago

            Thanks for this context. I myself have been looking around for info and excepting old posts from months ago i have failed. Perhaps the dmca request is more because they are the largest and highest visibility then? Thanks again

      • somethingchameleon@lemmy.caEnglish
        171·
        8 months ago

        Yeah, this is why users should get to decide which instances they get to see.

        Let’s be our own moderators instead of relying on useful idiots to do it for us.

    • somethingchameleon@lemmy.caEnglish
      133·
      8 months ago

      Do y’all think this “cleaning up” has to do with their META threads integration?

      I think bad actors have infiltrated their admin team and are pushing their own agenda.

      Lots of useful idiots want to ban discussion of piracy because it makes them realize how they’re getting ripped off.

      Nobody wants to acknowledge how they’re being taken for a ride, especially useful idiots.

    • blarth@thelemmy.clubEnglish
      5·
      8 months ago

      I am specifically not on world because they want me to sign up with my real email address. Nty, deanonymizing fucks.

    • Kevnyon@lemm.eeEnglish
      3·
      8 months ago

      Do you have a link to this? That sounds extremely alarming, I did not realize they had done that.