Judge Santiago Pedraz of the National Court has ordered the blocking of the Telegram messaging platform in Spain. This is a precautionary measure in response
Hasn’t the Great Firewall been in place for as long as China had internet, or was there a period where they had full access to the Internet? Yea if it has that’s what 20/30 years of development lmao
Given this seems to bizarrely be a copyright thing, it’s going to fail at its intended goal immediately—pirates typically don’t mind jumping through a hoop to get stuff for free.
If someone intends to block traffic on a road using a road block, and puts the block mostly on the pavement next to the road, the block is there but it’s not blocking any cars.
An ineffective block does not block what it’s supposed to, it’s still a block, it’s just not blocking anything.
Telegram doesn’t use vpns to bypass access restrictions. There have been multiple attempts to block/ban telegram and they inevitably fail because of the way the internet is designed. And as I said. If you have access to the greater internet you can probably access telegram but I am guessing you don’t use it and didn’t use it before the ban so you have no need to try to access it now.
Telegram uses proxies and has a setting in the app to attempt to work around blockages.
No, what I’m saying is that I can use a VPN to access telegram. Their proxy service doesn’t work in China, I have been using it since the initial public beta release some 10 years ago and keep using it ever since. Neither the official client nor Telegram X for that matter. Signal’s “bypass blockage” function hardly works either, by the way. It’s VPN or bust here.
It’s blocked here in China. If the Spanish really want, they’ll find a way.
You really can’t compare any other country to the Great Firewall of China.
Hasn’t the Great Firewall been in place for as long as China had internet, or was there a period where they had full access to the Internet? Yea if it has that’s what 20/30 years of development lmao
It’s blocked for people who don’t use a VPN
Its blocked for all. People who use vpn can circumvent it.
If you can circumvent it, it’s not blocked.
Given this seems to bizarrely be a copyright thing, it’s going to fail at its intended goal immediately—pirates typically don’t mind jumping through a hoop to get stuff for free.
So if you can drive faster than the speedlimit, there’s no speedlimit. …
Its blocked no matter if some can circumvent it or not. You are discussing the effectiveness of the block that you argue is not there
If someone intends to block traffic on a road using a road block, and puts the block mostly on the pavement next to the road, the block is there but it’s not blocking any cars.
An ineffective block does not block what it’s supposed to, it’s still a block, it’s just not blocking anything.
We might be getting into philosophy here though
By that logic, all websites are not blocked in China.
If you can reach any sites like this, you could reach telegram if you wanted to badly enough.
Sites like what? Lemmy isn’t blocked.
And sure, I can use a VPN, but that’s also illegal. So I can definitely break one law to break another, no problem.
Telegram doesn’t use vpns to bypass access restrictions. There have been multiple attempts to block/ban telegram and they inevitably fail because of the way the internet is designed. And as I said. If you have access to the greater internet you can probably access telegram but I am guessing you don’t use it and didn’t use it before the ban so you have no need to try to access it now.
Telegram uses proxies and has a setting in the app to attempt to work around blockages.
No, what I’m saying is that I can use a VPN to access telegram. Their proxy service doesn’t work in China, I have been using it since the initial public beta release some 10 years ago and keep using it ever since. Neither the official client nor Telegram X for that matter. Signal’s “bypass blockage” function hardly works either, by the way. It’s VPN or bust here.