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I didn’t notice much character development at all over the course of the game. All that happened was that Arthur lost faith in one guy. I think most of us living humans have been burnt by somebody we trust and learned that lesson by age 20. How Arthur made it into his 30’s before facing his daddy issues is beyond me, but I can’t comprehend on what planet that incredibly juvenile lesson in “Other people don’t always have your best interests at heart” qualifies as “one of the best character developments of all time”. At the very least it doesn’t hold a candle to John Marston’s arc. I mean the same company made GTA IV and Nico Bellic who is another character that is just in a whole different league than Arthur.
Like I could see myself being moved by his character if I myself was 14 when playing through the game. But playing this game for adults in my mid-twenties, it was just not compelling to play this character that was both much older than me, and yet also somehow had the mind of a teenage boy who’s just figured out his parents don’t actually know everything in the universe, and dad’s been cheating on mom.
what are you talking about? Also, Roger Clark won best performance of the year for his role as Arthur Morgan, so you are pretty much alone in feeling way to mature in relation to the character
Did you not play the game? Dutch is a surrogate father to Arthur, having brought him into the gang when Arthur was 14. It’s brought up multiple times throughout the story and is the basis for their relationship. Dutch literally says to Arthur out loud “You’re like a son to me”. It wasn’t exactly subtle.
Also, Roger Clark won best performance for his voice performance as Arthur, which he did do a good job of. That has absolutely nothing to do with the writing for, or maturity of the character.
Dutch is a surrogate father to Arthur, having brought him into the gang when Arthur was 14.
So is Hosea, it’s not about the father figure.
That has absolutely nothing to do with the writing for, or maturity of the character.
Of course it does. He doesn’t get rewarded because he read the lines correctly. He got the awarded since the character he portrayed came together so fantastically well.
Yes two diametrically opposed father figures. Thats literally what it’s all about. Thats… literally the whole entire thing. Asserting that RDR2 isn’t half centered around Dutch and his relationship to Arthur is WILD.
He doesn’t get rewarded because he read the lines correctly. He got the awarded since the character he portrayed came together so fantastically well.
It’s a performance award, of course he was awarded for his performance. If they were awarding the character the award would go to the person who wrote the character.
But it’s not about Arthur losing his father figures, lol the man is nearing his forties…
That is literally exactly what it’s about, from start to finish. And the fact that he’s in his forties is exactly why I think it doesn’t really work, I’m glad you agree lol.
Lmao, you know RDR2 also won the award for best narrative same year…
Yeah, no award for best protagonist though. Ah well.
That is literally exactly what it’s about, from start to finish. And the fact that he’s in his forties is exactly why I think it doesn’t really work, I’m glad you agree lol.
If that’s your interpretation of Arthurs story arc then, yeah, explains it.
Yeah, no award for best protagonist though. Ah well.
No such category for the Game Awards 2018 so not sure what you’re referring to.
If that’s your interpretation of Arthurs story arc then, yeah, explains it.
Yes that is sorta the only way to interpret it, as it’s very explicit the entire way through, but yeah. There are things to interpret about the story of RDR2, but Arthur’s entire arc being primarily about his relationship with his surrogate father is not one of them.
No such category for the Game Awards 2018 so not sure what you’re referring to.
That is correct. RDR2’s protagonist Arthur did not earn Rockstar any awards like you’re suggesting. There doesn’t even exist an award for that. Rockstar won an award for the overall narrative for the game, which includes an entire cast of characters, most of which are far more compelling than Arthur, and is also largely about the death of the “Wild West”. And then Roger Clark won an award for his voice performance.
I didn’t notice much character development at all over the course of the game. All that happened was that Arthur lost faith in one guy. I think most of us living humans have been burnt by somebody we trust and learned that lesson by age 20. How Arthur made it into his 30’s before facing his daddy issues is beyond me, but I can’t comprehend on what planet that incredibly juvenile lesson in “Other people don’t always have your best interests at heart” qualifies as “one of the best character developments of all time”. At the very least it doesn’t hold a candle to John Marston’s arc. I mean the same company made GTA IV and Nico Bellic who is another character that is just in a whole different league than Arthur.
Like I could see myself being moved by his character if I myself was 14 when playing through the game. But playing this game for adults in my mid-twenties, it was just not compelling to play this character that was both much older than me, and yet also somehow had the mind of a teenage boy who’s just figured out his parents don’t actually know everything in the universe, and dad’s been cheating on mom.
what are you talking about? Also, Roger Clark won best performance of the year for his role as Arthur Morgan, so you are pretty much alone in feeling way to mature in relation to the character
Did you not play the game? Dutch is a surrogate father to Arthur, having brought him into the gang when Arthur was 14. It’s brought up multiple times throughout the story and is the basis for their relationship. Dutch literally says to Arthur out loud “You’re like a son to me”. It wasn’t exactly subtle.
Also, Roger Clark won best performance for his voice performance as Arthur, which he did do a good job of. That has absolutely nothing to do with the writing for, or maturity of the character.
So is Hosea, it’s not about the father figure.
Of course it does. He doesn’t get rewarded because he read the lines correctly. He got the awarded since the character he portrayed came together so fantastically well.
Yes two diametrically opposed father figures. Thats literally what it’s all about. Thats… literally the whole entire thing. Asserting that RDR2 isn’t half centered around Dutch and his relationship to Arthur is WILD.
It’s a performance award, of course he was awarded for his performance. If they were awarding the character the award would go to the person who wrote the character.
Not what anyone’s saying. But it’s not about Arthur losing his father figures, lol the man is nearing his forties…
Lmao, you know RDR2 also won the award for best narrative same year…
That is literally exactly what it’s about, from start to finish. And the fact that he’s in his forties is exactly why I think it doesn’t really work, I’m glad you agree lol.
Yeah, no award for best protagonist though. Ah well.
If that’s your interpretation of Arthurs story arc then, yeah, explains it.
No such category for the Game Awards 2018 so not sure what you’re referring to.
Yes that is sorta the only way to interpret it, as it’s very explicit the entire way through, but yeah. There are things to interpret about the story of RDR2, but Arthur’s entire arc being primarily about his relationship with his surrogate father is not one of them.
That is correct. RDR2’s protagonist Arthur did not earn Rockstar any awards like you’re suggesting. There doesn’t even exist an award for that. Rockstar won an award for the overall narrative for the game, which includes an entire cast of characters, most of which are far more compelling than Arthur, and is also largely about the death of the “Wild West”. And then Roger Clark won an award for his voice performance.