Is just such a shock from being in China. Just got harassed and essentially threatened for being a socialist. They searched my bags and commented on my China flag and my little red books and my copy of Blackshirts and Reds. Fucking police state. The security in China is strict, but they don’t give a fuck about your thoughts, whereas this guy was very aggressive about “consequences” for being a socialist.

  • deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml
    22·
    7 months ago

    I have heard plenty of first hand accounts from people who were born there, who live there, and elsewhere who go back to visit family often, that say otherwise.

    Also you

    here’s a huge difference between “I experienced this” and “I’m extrapolating a huge generalization from my tiny shred of experience”.

    When did he claim that, eh?

    Yeah, nah, I’m just gonna do a whataboutism on you and ask you about their experiences… for all I know, these people are affiliated with National Endowment for Democracy and other western NGOs, because that would explain a lot

    You seem like pro-regime changer, so I guess agree to disagree…

    • nxdefiant@startrek.website
      219·
      7 months ago

      “Their security” is a bit broad, no? I mean, what are the error bars on that? One airport? That’s the bar (I think?) from the American side, so I’m guessing it’s the same for the Chinese side.

      • Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.mlOP
        231·
        7 months ago

        Multiple airports, train stations, subway lines, bus stations. But, I can only really speak for northern China and Beijing, I’ll give you that.

        • ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml
          15·
          7 months ago

          Ive been to Shenzhen before from the UK, most intense security was in the UK.

          I will say Chinese people do get survailled, but its usually in the case of them studying abroad, they will ask people to check in to a local embassy infrequently to make sure they arent fleeing there VISA, which most countires actually ask you to do lol.

          • Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.mlOP
            4·
            7 months ago

            That didn’t happen to my wife or her family despite her living abroad for a decade and her dad for more than two decades. Not to say it doesn’t happen now, or at all, just that the people I know haven’t experienced that.

      • Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.mlOP
        81·
        7 months ago

        So…. Just come in, shit all over, and then leave without even responding to me once? I’ll be sure to remember your username in the future so I don’t waste time on bad faith arguments from you. Cheers!